Children and Violent Video Games

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I have to write a persuasive essay on the topic of Children and Violent Video games tonight. Obviously i'm taking a stance in favor of children playing them. However, i really dont feel like coming up with a ton of arguments/counter arguments etc, so who wants to help? ^_^

Just gimme some arguments for children being able to play video games.. or counter arguments and what argument you'd use against it.

If you wanna be really helpful ^_^ You could answer in the form of:

-Concession, followed by pro argument
-Extension of that pro argument
-Second concession, followed by pro argument
-Third concession, followd by pro argument
-Pro argument
-Pro argument
-Pro argument

Of course any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated ^_^
 
Ikerous said:
LOL XD I Was hoping you guys would help me start ;-)

I love you...

I hope you aren't planning to argue that they benefit mental capacity :laugh:
 
I'm writing a seminar for tommrow at the moment...
Thats right, its 5 minutes past 3 in the morning.
Oh and the seminar is about art.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
I'm writing a seminar for tommrow at the moment...
Thats right, its 5 minutes past 3 in the morning.
Oh and the seminar is about art.

Theres potential for a joke there.. but I can't seem to make one.. my brain must be breaking :rolleyes:
 
I had a friend help me out with an idea for the first concession/counter ^_^ I love her.

"the typical argument is that violent games make children violent but most violent games include reprecussions to actions ex: grand theft auto- police come after you when you do illegal things. unrealistic games like hunting monsters can't make children confuse monsters in games with people. people dont realize that children can differenciate between games and reality"

Ill base it off of that, then extend on the counter and have my first two points ^_^

Where should i go from here?
 
I think games that do not show the true consequences of actions in games can only be detrimental to the development of a child.

I blame bad parents for bad children, though. If any kid of mine went stealin cars or hacking peoples heads off, i'd take their gaming privs away. :sleep:
 
Ikerous said:
Where should i go from here?


Give the argument for kids becoming excessively violent from playing video games and then destroy it in the next few paragraphs.

edit: ^_^ <- If you use that again, I will kill you.
 
Violent games reflect society, society is not shaped by violent games.


I dunno.. sounds good for something i just invented then :D
 
Millions of kids play violent video games, yet next to none of them have gone on a mass killing spree with automatic weaponry in their school lunch room.

...YEAH.
 
bliink said:
Theres potential for a joke there.. but I can't seem to make one.. my brain must be breaking :rolleyes:

No, that late at night is sitcom material.

Ooo, and Ikerous, there's a famous psychologist who studied children copying violence on cartoons and television. Arrgh, I can't remember his name... its a tip of the tongue job...

While I remember the details...

Basically he found that children were more likely to imitate violence if they saw in a realistic way. What that means is that if it was on a cartoon they're less likely to copy it than if it were on, say, a film. To study this he had these kids watch some cartoons and films and then put them in a room with some big dolls, which the kids would then proceed to lay the crap out of, depending on what they'd seen.
Of course the study was limited because how often do you watch a violent film and then get put in a room with someone whos there to be layed into?? Not often.
But you can very easily say that games can also be applied to his findings; while mario is unlikely to make people want to hop on other peoples heads, more realistic games, like manhunt perhaps, might get some nasty results.

As an interesting note however, by far the easiest way to get kids to be violent is if they see adults being violent in life. SO you could say that while games may cause violent behaviour, more likely a cause is that a child has witnessed violence first hand.

http://www.magicdragon.com/EmeraldCity/Nonfiction/socphil.html

That should help, though its not the original study I don't think

Good luck

EDIT: On the subject of more significant causes for violence, try and find a site about how violent acts tend to go up during war time. Kids see violence on the news, then go and shoot up their school. Sick, but true.
 
bliink said:
Violent games reflect society, society is not shaped by violent games.


I dunno.. sounds good for something i just invented then :D


I see what you're saying, but it isn't really quite so clean cut as that. I would go into that more but frankly I think my brain has already broken...
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
I see what you're saying, but it isn't really quite so clean cut as that. I would go into that more but frankly I think my brain has already broken...

Ambiguity and poorly created statements are what essay writing is all about!
 
bliink said:
Ambiguity and poorly created statements are what essay writing is all about!

Damn right. Just start typing and use whatever comes out.

Video games cause people to be violent. In order to stop this, we must kill the lawyers. Those bastards wouldn't care what hit them. By destroying the lawyers we can cause the rest of society to be better. With this new found revival of the arts, a surge of learning in science and the arts will take place, another renaisance if you must. The benefits society would reap from this 'renaisance' would be amazing. Think of it, incredible fuel efficiency in SUVs and great-smelling flowers.

/me rambles on.

Pure journalistic dynamite crap.

GENIUS. :smoking:
 
Ya guys are awesome!
I think i've manages to gather enough crap to put together an outline, and from there it shouldnt be bad.

Thanks guys! ::Group hugs::
 
I had to write a research paper on the effects of violent media on children, it was a bitch, good luck.
 
Violent games made me kill all my pokemon stuffed animals.


:(


Oh....and sucks for you iccy. :laugh:
 
Ikerous said:
I have to write a persuasive essay on the topic of Children and Violent Video games tonight. Obviously i'm taking a stance in favor of children playing them. However, i really dont feel like coming up with a ton of arguments/counter arguments etc, so who wants to help? ^_^

Just gimme some arguments for children being able to play video games.. or counter arguments and what argument you'd use against it.

If you wanna be really helpful ^_^ You could answer in the form of:

-Concession, followed by pro argument
-Extension of that pro argument
-Second concession, followed by pro argument
-Third concession, followd by pro argument
-Pro argument
-Pro argument
-Pro argument

Of course any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated ^_^
That's awesome, because I wrote a piece of terrific satire on the issue the other day, if I do say so myself. Unfortunately, you're going to have to write this thing yourself, just like I did. Oh yes, that's right. Back in the day, we all wrote our own essays. We walked FIFTEEN miles UPHILL in the snow and SLEET just to dip our quills in the FROZEN INK up down yonder at the schoolhouse.

You best be respectin' yo elders, boy.
 
I had to write a paper on my childhood and how will effect my future......
Got a C because I coulden't think of anything else but killing monsters with infront of my computer......
Took me 30 minutes to finish that shit and now I have to re-write the damn thing,I'm going to be hacking heads off I this keeps up.
 
counter-strike is real right....must kill...destroy *robot sounds*
 
Sieg said:
I had to write a paper on my childhood and how will effect my future......
Got a C because I coulden't think of anything else but killing monsters with infront of my computer......
Took me 30 minutes to finish that shit and now I have to re-write the damn thing,I'm going to be hacking heads off I this keeps up.

violent video games do not make violent people.

homework does.
 
But to assume most young people can't decifire the innate differences between reality and fiction is unthinkable. And even if this is the case; let the children play games where the enemy is some evil, human killing, mutant from another planet. That way you won't have to worry about your child reenacting the events in real life situations. And if anything, they'll be prepared for when the aliens invade and we need people to go fight them off. These games could turn your little boy into a hero.

Part of one of my counter arguements...
 
Just tell the parents to shut the **** up and that games do not make children violent....now go teach your kids something useful instead of bitching about things you shoulda taught.


There...thats your second counter arguement.
 
Tr0n said:
Just tell the parents to shut the **** up games do not make children violent....now go teach your kids something.


There...thats your second counter arguement.
I think i might get suspended if i say **** :(
 
Ikerous said:
I think i might get suspended if i say **** :(
Well **** them to.

Tell them..."Bitch don't be gettin up in my grill dawg".
 
I have to do an essay on the following statement

"Shakespeare's plays are outdated and irrelavant to the 21st centuary teenager."
 
Danimal said:
I have to do an essay on the following statement

"Shakespeare's plays are outdated and irrelavant to the 21st centuary teenager."
How is macbeth not relevant...
It talks about how if you're drunk, you wanna have sex, but you cant have sex.. or something.. i didnt read it all that well :-/
 
I am against the statement. I think it is very relavant.

Mcbeth = kid who marries his mum.(Mom is you're in America.)
 
Danimal said:
I am against the statement. I think it is very relavant.

Mcbeth = kid who marries his mum.(Mom is you're in America.)
Wasn't it oedipus that married his mom?
 
Ikerous said:
How is macbeth not relevant...
It talks about how if you're drunk, you wanna have sex, but you cant have sex.. or something.. i didnt read it all that well :-/

I think the part you're talking about is where it basically says alcohol increases the desire to have sex, but decreases the performance ability.
 
bliink said:
I think the part you're talking about is where it basically says alcohol increases the desire to have sex, but decreases the performance ability.
Well it does make ugly people look hot. :laugh:
 
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