Eagle Eyes

Wait a second: Gordon walks around with an ENTIRE FREAKING ARSENAL of weapons, not to mention spare ammuntion for same, and you people are arguing over whether or not he's got headgear on? :laugh:

This thread is hilarous. :D
 
He keeps them in a portably-sustained pocket storage universe. Of course. :upstare:
 
well, i think you can excuse the endless weapon supply because otherwise it would just be like crappy halo. but a helmet issue on the other hand i would say is a perfectly reasonable topic of arguement.
 
Myxomatosis said:
That is probably not right... in HL1(original & source), there is no "zoom" keybind... and if you ignore that and try the zoom anyway, you will find that very few guns have a zoom, the crossbow does, not to sure about anything else.. but pull out the revolver and you will see that it doesn't have a zoom. Therefore gordons glasses in HL1 were not zoom capable. And I doubt seriously that he could have upgraded his glasses since last game.. what, do they have eye glass shops in the stasis that Gman threw gordon in at the end of HL1? If they did upgrade his glasses they should have atleast told you on the box or something.. "see gordon like you've never seen him before!! with his new and improved zooming glasses!"... no

And about the HUD.. that is just something you have to have.. no logic necessary for that one. A suit zoom however you don't need (i.e HL1).
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They upgraded Gordon's "glasses" when they switched to the source engine! :P
 
Myxomatosis said:
I already explained why that wouldn't work.. the helmet lets you breathe in the harsh environments of zen, which you would otherwise not have been able to live, right?
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Wrong, you don't need a helmet to breath on Xen, since the Xen creatures can sustain life on Black Mesa, that means that xen has similar atmospheric content, pressure and gravity. Also, at the end of HL1, Xen is invaded sucessfully by Marines (you can see some casualties and a Tank behind Gman while he is delivering the ending dialogue) and the marines do not have a pressure suit, only a few wear gas masks. The Helmets for the mark 5 are only there to protect against... get this, hazardous materials from splashing onto the face. Its also a shortcut to hide faces so that valve would have less work to do. When you get your suit in the beginning of HL1, there is no helmet, and the woman in the HEV suit is not wearing a helmet either (thats how we know its a woman.)

Honestly, we are over analysing this, I can zoom in first person view in Operation Flashpoint, but guess what? No optical link?!?! Its just the way valve did it, for once consider that MAYBE they didn't want to have a major background story and debate as to why Freeman could zoom in HL2 and not HL1.

Any questions?
 
Actually I'd say it's his glasses. There was no suit zoom in HL1, however, as Dr. Kleiner said concerning the suit, "I've made some modifications". Thus glasses now, in contact with the suit, can zoom in. Come on, there are one way see-through walls, there are scanners which hover in air powered by nothing...

He doesn't wear a helmet. HE DOESN'T. That'd be geeky, freaky, ugly and non-heroic like. How cool would it be watching a guy in a suit and a helmet on HL2's cover?
 
thats why he doesnt wear it on the cover and thats why you never see it
 
More possibly SILLY theories:


Gordon didn't have a helmet in Half-Life because he forgot it. He was in such a rush to get to the Test Chamber that day that he simply forgot to put it on. Or he did have it on for most of the game but then lost it when he was ambushed and put in the trash compactor.

In Half-Life 2, Kleiner may have added a helmet for the Mark V Hazard Suit with special zoom modifications. But it's possible he didn't permit helmets in his hideout because he didn't want to offend Lamaar. :P
 
well when you get down to the facts, there's a lot of things in halflife 2 that don't make any sense whatsoever, the helmet debacle being one of many.

-Magnum has no speed loader and yet is loaded as if it had one.
-Pulse Rifle reloads itself, yet when Combine soldiers use it you can see them going through some manual reload animation.
-Barely armored rebels can take on heavily armored combine troops easily, even when outnumbered
-Snipers are retarded (there's a whole slew of reasons for this)
-Crossbow should never ever ever work
-The mysterious short ranged wobbly nade launcher on the mp7
-The oversaturation of flammable barrels all over c17
-the unexplainable invisible extra barrel on the spas 12
-that having a flashlight on makes you tired and unable to hold your breath
-That there are magnums and magnum rounds everywhere but no one uses them but you.

the helmet is just the tip of the iceberg really
 
Flyingdebris said:
-Crossbow should never ever ever work
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whats wrong with the crossbow?
Flyingdebris said:
-that having a flashlight on makes you tired and unable to hold your breath
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it's not your air that the flashlight drains. its just aux power.

but i get your point though about all that stuff
 
New evidence: The flashlight!
When Gordon is crawling threw vents then his body would be facing down and so would the flashlight. And when he looks down the flashlight wouldn't go down with his view unless he bent his body down very aquardly. So he either has it on his helmet or it turns to face the way he is looking somehow.
 
ríomhaire said:
New evidence: The flashlight!
When Gordon is crawling threw vents then his body would be facing down and so would the flashlight. And when he looks down the flashlight wouldn't go down with his view unless he bent his body down very aquardly. So he either has it on his helmet or it turns to face the way he is looking somehow.
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His glasses. They produce the zoom, they produce light.
 
Flyingdebris said:
well when you get down to the facts, there's a lot of things in halflife 2 that don't make any sense whatsoever, the helmet debacle being one of many.

*snip*

the helmet is just the tip of the iceberg really
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Not to mention the fact that all of the weapons you just mentioned manage to magically fit around, on or even inside the suit ^^

edit: apologies for the fact that someone already pointed this out on page 3 :p
 
If you look in the sdk files you will see that there was a binoculars item that was cut out. This explains why he can't shoot while using them as well.
 
DoctorWeeTodd said:
If you look in the sdk files you will see that there was a binoculars item that was cut out. This explains why he can't shoot while using them as well.
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[SARCASM]Yes, something that wasn't in the game proves it all![/SARCASM]
 
iMMuNiTy said:
Actually I'd say it's his glasses. There was no suit zoom in HL1, however, as Dr. Kleiner said concerning the suit, "I've made some modifications". Thus glasses now, in contact with the suit, can zoom in. Come on, there are one way see-through walls, there are scanners which hover in air powered by nothing...

He doesn't wear a helmet. HE DOESN'T. That'd be geeky, freaky, ugly and non-heroic like. How cool would it be watching a guy in a suit and a helmet on HL2's cover?
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Like that pussy Master Cheif?:laugh:

I heard from someone in the beta (May or may not be true) that you had to select the binoculars and take them out to zoom originally. And that you could use the MP7's scope/sight capability.

He says it really slowed down gameplay and he was glad you didn't have to do it.

Maybe Gordon just squints a bit.
 
about the flashlight thing, i say the light is not on his glasses, just like the zoom is not on his glasses either.

btw: is it just a coincidence that there is an ad for glasses above this thread that says "eagle eyes"?
 
gabriel said:
btw: is it just a coincidence that there is an ad for glasses above this thread that says "eagle eyes"?
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Yes, it is.
 
No it's not, the adds scan the page for key words and change accordingly.
Edit: Originaly in HL1 they were going to have a removable helmet. With the helmet you had a HUD and protection from headcrabs and headshots but without it sight and hearing were alot clearer.
 
In HL1, Gordon had NO Helmet, because I turned the thirdperson cheat on, and he had NO helmet. In HL2 he seems to have no hlemet, but we wont know, coz the thirdperson command in HL2, doesnt show grodon. What I think is more interesting now is : DID GORDON WEAR THE BLUE UNIFORMS THAT ALL CITIZENS HAVE, WHILE HE WAS ON THE TRAIN, AND BEFORE HE GOT HIS HEV SUIT ON???. imagine Grodon in ablue unifrom. LOL
 
bat_lyubo said:
In HL1, Gordon had NO Helmet, because I turned the thirdperson cheat on, and he had NO helmet. In HL2 he seems to have no hlemet, but we wont know, coz the thirdperson command in HL2, doesnt show grodon. What I think is more interesting now is : DID GORDON WEAR THE BLUE UNIFORMS THAT ALL CITIZENS HAVE, WHILE HE WAS ON THE TRAIN, AND BEFORE HE GOT HIS HEV SUIT ON???. imagine Grodon in ablue unifrom. LOL
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Yes he was wearing a citizen uniform
"Let's get you out of your civies"
And something that you were never supposed to see in the game doesn't prove anyhting.
 
The model was made for multiplayer so it's not really indicative of whether or not Gordon was wearing a helmet...
 
Sulkdodds said:
The model was made for multiplayer so it's not really indicative of whether or not Gordon was wearing a helmet...
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Exactly. The "gordon" model from HL1 was to be used for multiplayer so there fore didn't have a helmet so it was differnt from the "Gina" and "helmet" models.
 
Ok then, w/e. But in reply to some of the theories, there was no helmet behind the HEV suit in HL2, I looked at it from everyside. Some ppl suggested that the helmet coulda been behind n stuff.
 
Still, what about the magic gloves on the HL1 HEV, maybe it's the same sort of thing.
 
Am I the only one who thinks that the people in HEV suits on Xen look like Master Chief?
 
Boogymanx said:
Am I the only one who thinks that the people in HEV suits on Xen look like Master Chief?
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In so much as they're armoued suits with helmets. Personally I think they look more like Grif from RvB. Then they're closer because they're orange armoured suits with helmets.
 
Boogymanx said:
Am I the only one who thinks that the people in HEV suits on Xen look like Master Chief?
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Well apparently not, though I don't see the resemblance at all. Besides, the phrasing here should be "Am I the only one who thinks tnat the Master Chief looks like the people in HEV suits on Xen?" because HL came first.

There are extra points for a snide comment about copying and pasting 90% of your levels and getting Uncle Bill to hand-job all the reviewers into giving said game astronomical, unjustified reviews, instead of actually making a decent game.

And MC looks like the Doom Marine :p
 
Yeah he has the helmet of the DooM marine, but didn't they lose the helmet in DooM 2?
 
All those whining about Gearbox portraying Gordon without the Long Jump Module in OpFor consider this: It doesn't show when you get it in Multiplayer either.

Besides the whole notion of a rocket jet pack that only helps you jump higher in a planet already have low gravity is ridicoulous.
 
Hey Gabe, or Mr Newell, whichever you prefer. I've got a question to
end a thread on the HL2.net forums. Does the HEV Suit has a helmet and
does Gordon wear it?
MTIA,
Boogymanx
 
DoctorWeeTodd said:
All those whining about Gearbox portraying Gordon without the Long Jump Module in OpFor consider this: It doesn't show when you get it in Multiplayer either.

Besides the whole notion of a rocket jet pack that only helps you jump higher in a planet already have low gravity is ridicoulous.
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What are you talking about? Do you not remember using it in the Hazard Course?
 
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