Fake Soldier Update

[Zippy]

Don't worry, this is my last one, and is 350% better than my fake Scout update. For the love of God, someone tell me that this tops the Spy one. It's 1 MB, and took painful amounts of work. Hope you like it.

Fake Soldier Update

 

[Lobster]

Its nice that you wanna put so much effort into this for fun, but i dont quite understand it, why did you make 4 unlockables instead of 3? also why would you want that grenade launcher over the rocket launcher? rocket jumping is one of the soldiers primary skills, and the demoman already has a nade launcher.

The spade replacement idea is quite interesting though, crit melee for defending objectives as the soldier sounds quite fitting.

 

[Jintor]

Wtf is with the "Meet the Ninja" down the bottom?

The achievements aren't too bad.

 

[Operational]

I saw your thread on the Steam forums. I like the Spade and some of the Achievements.

By "Spy one" do you mean this one? Because it gets extra points for being the first fake

 

[Druckles]

I'm sure you tried really hard, but I have some issues.

The spade replacement idea is quite interesting though, crit melee for defending objectives as the soldier sounds quite fitting.

This is a good place to start. It would be far more fitting for the scout.

Grenade launcher has been mentioned. I don't think primary weapon will change completely. Take the current unlockables for instance. A modified rocket launcher would be far more fitting. See unlockables ideas thread.

Who wouldn't want an armoured vest? He's already pretty slow as is. What's wrong with being slightly more slower!

where the Soldier can go prone

Because of course this would be useful to the soldier.

 

[Shoes_Buttback03]

The Demoman already has a Grenade launcher, theres no reason to give the Soldier one. The armor I don't like because it just doesn't feel right. But the Winstock and Starspangled Spade I like alot. And I love the achievements.

I really hope valve see's this and make's a few or all of those achievements real. Good job overall.

 

[Omnomnick]

That was probs second best out of the bunch.

Spy top, then Soldier, then whocares they sucked.

 

[Druckles]

The Demoman already has a Grenade launcher, theres no reason to give the Soldier one. The armor I don't like because it just doesn't feel right. But the Winstock and Starspangled Spade I like alot. And I love the achievements.

I really hope valve see's this and make's a few or all of those achievements real. Good job overall.

I think not. What gives the soldier the right to have crits on a cap?

 

[Love4Fire]

wow, it looks like a lot of work went into that...nice job Zippy

 

[Iron_cube]

I only liked the achievement icons, everything else did not make sense, including the GMOD poses on a hl2dm map.

 

[Zippy]

Well, at least some people liked it.

 

[Sledgehammer]

The shovel is a good idea. Perhaps not the most fitting for soldier, but a good idea nonetheless. Some of the achievements were pretty good. Meet the ninja would be awesome. I also think that sabotage would be a cool gametype, however, your sabotage sucks. Above average overall.

 

[Zippy]

I also think that sabotage would be a cool gametype, however, your sabotage sucks.

That doesn't make much sense.

 

[Crispy]

I liked em both, but the Spy one is better worded and had more realistic weapons.

I think the spade and the traffic lights bat are both cool ideas, though.

 

[Slime]

That doesn't make much sense.

Maybe he's referring to the insanity of of four teams in a map, although I just thought it was a joke tribute to earlier TFs myself.

 

[ríomhaire]

Sabotage: Sounds overly complicated. Also, when the teams merge, what colour do they take on? (and there's no apostraphe in the word till; it isn't short for until)

Underground: Does not look like a TF2 map. Looks like the screenshots were taken in Garry's mod. Very large complicated maps are not TF2 style. TF2 offical maps are always laid out in an easy to understand manner (except maybe Steel )

Going prone: Seems petty pointless and only tagged on for the sake of having a change to the class.
Grenade Launcher: It's the Demoman's weapon.

Winstock: Really changes the Soldier's role and you could end up with the Soldier playing sniper.

Armoured vest: The Soldier only has 3 weapons. What does this replace? Also, giving him this would cause people to have to aim at specific parts of the body to do more damage, which is not TF2 philosophy. Headshots don't even do extra damage unless you're using the sniper rifle. And, of course, it's rediculously powerfull. Stops all non-critical bullets? WTF?

Star-Spangled Spade: Only decent idea.

Way too many freezecam achievements.

The Soldier needs achievemnts:
Medal of Honour
Medal of Valour
Purple Heart

 

[Zippy]

Underground: Does not look like a TF2 map. Looks like the screenshots were taken in Garry's mod. Very large complicated maps are not TF2 style. TF2 offical maps are always laid out in an easy to understand manner (except maybe Steel )

Incorrect. That map is actual called "arena_allmine", you'll find it on fpsbanana.

Grenade Launcher: It's the Demoman's weapon.

That's it, I'm making changes to this update. I'm gonna hear this 1000 more times. Yes, I know the Demo has a grenade launcher. This one and the Demo's aren't much the same.

Winstock: Really changes the Soldier's role and you could end up with the Soldier playing sniper.

True, but the Heavy and Spy can play "Sniper" too.

Armoured vest: The Soldier only has 3 weapons. What does this replace? ... Stops all non-critical bullets? WTF?

The armor replaces nothing. It'd be an "equip/unequip" kind of thing.

Star-Spangled Spade: Only decent idea.

I'm gonna be honest, I'll be depressed a tiny bit if Valve didn't use this idea, or something similar.

If you don't like the ideas, I can understand perfectly, but didn't the photoshopping please you one bit? The only reason I made this is to top the Spy one, while redeeming myself for my crap Scout one. I think I failed for the first part.

 

[Druckles]

This one and the Demo's aren't much the same.

Yes they are :|

the Heavy can play "Sniper" too.

What.

The armor replaces nothing. It'd be an "equip/unequip" kind of thing.

An upgrade.

I'm gonna be honest, I'll be depressed a tiny bit if Valve didn't use this idea, or something similar.

I won't. What happens when you over power a soldier?

 

[Zippy]

Yes they are :|

No. Demo grenade launcher grenades only explode instantly on players, has delayed explode when not hitting anyone, can fire grenades in small windowed spaces to cause more damage in indoor-like areas.

Soldier grenade launcher grenades explode on impact, no matter what. Grenade rounds fly much, much faster and farther. Not so good firing through windowed areas, as the grenade rounds will just explode on the ceiling and not fall down where the enemy would be.

The Heavy can "snipe" short range with this fist taunt, although you get away from this easily. The Spy's revolver is accurate enough to shoot people at medium-long range. This what I mean when I say "the Heavy and Spy can play 'Sniper' too".

An upgrade.

What?

I won't. What happens when you over power a soldier?

What?

 

[Omnomnick]

The Soldier is ****ing powerful enough already. He doesn't need much more power, he needs some kind of mini-rocket launcher that replaces the Shotgun which holds more ammo but is alot weaker. It would also be more accurate.

 

[Eejit]

A rocket launcher which has projectiles that fly faster would be cool.

Slower reload or something as downside maybe.

 

[Zippy]

Sabotage: Sounds overly complicated. Also, when the teams merge, what colour do they take on?

Colored teams would be merged randomly. It could turn into Red and Yellow vs. Blue and Green. Or Red and Blue, vs. Green and Yellow. You'd never know.

 

[Druckles]

No. Demo grenade launcher grenades only explode instantly on players, has delayed explode when not hitting anyone, can fire grenades in small windowed spaces to cause more damage in indoor-like areas.

Soldier grenade launcher grenades explode on impact, no matter what. Grenade rounds fly much, much faster and farther. Not so good firing through windowed areas, as the grenade rounds will just explode on the ceiling and not fall down where the enemy would be.

So it's like a slow rocket launcher. How original.

The Heavy can "snipe" short range with this fist taunt, although you get away from this easily.

Good luck performing this in a real game.

The Spy's revolver is accurate enough to shoot people at medium-long range. This what I mean when I say "the Heavy and Spy can play 'Sniper' too".

I'm aware that the Spy can shoot people from longer range, but that doesn't particularly matter because the Spy's probably dead anyway.

What?

An upgrade.

What?

I won't. What happens when you over power a soldier?

 

[ríomhaire]

Incorrect. That map is actual called "arena_allmine", you'll find it on fpsbanana.

I'm not saying that it wasn't a TF2 map, I was saying that it isn't in the TF2 style.

True, but the Heavy and Spy can play "Sniper" too.

Sniping is long range, accurate shooting, which the Heavy cannot do, at all. The Spy's revolver on the otherhand, although it is accurate over range, it's power at a large range is rather small unless he's getting lots of crits.

The armor replaces nothing. It'd be an "equip/unequip" kind of thing.

So it's simply an upgrade to the Soldier? These updates are supposed to offer alternatives, not upgrades.

I'm gonna be honest, I'll be depressed a tiny bit if Valve didn't use this idea, or something similar.

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. I'm sure they have their own ideas.

If you don't like the ideas, I can understand perfectly, but didn't the photoshopping please you one bit? The only reason I made this is to top the Spy one, while redeeming myself for my crap Scout one. I think I failed for the first part.

The quality of the presentation is good, but I care more about the quality of the ideas.

Colored teams would be merged randomly. It could turn into Red and Yellow vs. Blue and Green. Or Red and Blue, vs. Green and Yellow. You'd never know.

Suddenly being changed to a different team colour would be disorientating and annoying. Especially if you get changed to a team you were after already hindering.

 

[FISHY CRACKERS]

So it's simply an upgrade to the Soldier? These updates are supposed to offer alternatives, not upgrades.

I wouldn't call it an upgrade, because if it was, people would always have it on, makes the game easier. It's sort of like replacing the soilder's body, with it's own downsides. Personally i only semi-like the idea of the body armour but i'm just saying, it seems ok to me.

 

[Druckles]

I wouldn't call it an upgrade, because if it was, people would always have it on, makes the game easier. It's sort of like replacing the soilder's body, with it's own downsides. Personally i only semi-like the idea of the body armour but i'm just saying, it seems ok to me.

A choice which wasn't there before is an upgrade. You're taken from having no choice to having a choice. That's more. Therefore upgrade.

 

[FISHY CRACKERS]

A choice which wasn't there before is an upgrade. You're taken from having no choice to having a choice. That's more. Therefore upgrade.

Well in that case i suppose every class is getting at least three upgrades because people get to choose from the original weapons (no choice) and the new weapons (choice)

 

[Druckles]

Well in that case i suppose every class is getting at least three upgrades because people get to choose from the original weapons (no choice) and the new weapons (choice)

Yep. The classes are all getting upgrades.

 

[Sledgehammer]

Maybe he's referring to the insanity of of four teams in a map, although I just thought it was a joke tribute to earlier TFs myself.

I was trying to say that a gametype named sabotage would be cool. However, Zippy's sabotage doesn't look fun. And hey, I may finally have chosen a screenname that actually make people get my gender correct.

 

[Druckles]

I'm curious as to your previous usernames...

 

[Sheepo]

The Heavy can "snipe" short range with this fist taunt, although you get away from this easily.

I could make fun of your entire post but every one else seems to be managing fine.

 

[Zippy]

I could make fun of your entire post but every one else seems to be managing fine.

And they're all doing a better job than you could. :|

So it's like a slow rocket launcher. How original.

No...?

 

[kineaesth]

I think you've done a pretty good job. Sure, some things seem a bit weird, as personally I think another grenade launcher would make people confused, but all in all I liked it.
Look at me being moderate, how edgy is that?

 

[Sheepo]

And they're all doing a better job than you could. :|

Oh damn. You really don't hold back do you.

 

[kineaesth]

Oh damn. You really don't hold back do you.

'Look at me I'm Sheepo and I've noticed that some other cool members are railing on this guy so I thought that I'd join in rather than forming my own opinion about the OP which I may not have even read'

Just sayin', is all.

 

[Sheepo]

'Look at me I'm Sheepo and I've noticed that some other cool members are railing on this guy so I thought that I'd join in rather than forming my own opinion about the OP which I may not have even read'

Just sayin', is all.

I did read it, thank you very much. I didn't realize I was arguing with the thread-maker though. But really, short-range sniper? And no one else had mocked him for that particular point. And now he mocks me for my inability to mock him!

I'm not sure what I'm saying anymore

 

[morgs]

The effort that went into this has to be recognized:thumbs:

 

[Druckles]

No...?

Yes...?

 

[ríomhaire]

I wouldn't call it an upgrade, because if it was, people would always have it on, makes the game easier. It's sort of like replacing the soilder's body, with it's own downsides. Personally i only semi-like the idea of the body armour but i'm just saying, it seems ok to me.

What's the downside?

 

[Slime]

This one and the Demo's aren't much the same.

Yes they are

No. *snip*

So it's like a slow rocket launcher.

No...?

Yes..?

I see a pattern.

Good job on the artwork, Zippy. I'm not really fond of the new weapons either, but I'll just leave it at that as I think you've got that by now... one way or another. Good achievements, though.