Gordon nees to get AWAY from Alyx

[FrostXian]

As we have all seen/learned in Episode 2, G-man plucked Alyx out of Black Mesa, and he seems to be "programming" her to serve him. He whispered her to tell her father "Prepare for unforseen concequenses(sp? x-x)" and she's complied later, when G-man's figure flashed across the monitors (while Alyx was looking).
Does this mean Alyx is also unwillingly spying for G-man? Surely she must be an active way of him to control Gordon's actions even closer. Should Gordon really trust her?

Spoiler

 

[Xendance]

lol, it makes me wonder why some of you spend ages thinking about the G-man theories, when for all we know, it could all be made up as it goes along.

 

[Gordon-Shepherd]

Interesting find.

 

[FrostXian]

lol, it makes me wonder why some of you spend ages thinking about the G-man theories, when for all we know, it could all be made up as it goes along.

Did he whisper for you to say that?

 

[SpotEnemyBoats]

I must say that's a very interesting theory about Gman and Alyx, I would have never have thought of it myself.

Realistically, Alyx does not have the capabilities of Gordon Freeman. Therefore, Alyx cannot be used as a replacement for Gordon. The Gman knows that, and that's why he needs Alyx to get to Gordon. Not to fight him, but perhaps to seduce him as a spy working for the Gman? Perhaps to just merely get to his head.

If Alyx was the next "Gordon Freeman" or the next 'Adrian Shephard" that would make Gordon irrelevant. Then why would the resistance need Gordon? I do not buy that Gman wants to use Alyx like he does Gordon, until Alyx starts wearing some protective body armour and carries more weapons.

Maybe I've been watching too many movies?

D:

 

[Pinkle]

That screenshot is ****ing awesome. The two times I've played through, I missed that and I've been wanting to see it. God I love these games.

 

[Nitre]

They're both his pawns in whatever the hell he wants to do and he's going to make full use of that. And he isn't going to stupidly kill either of them off (if he has any sense at all[which he does])

 

[Iron_cube]

I would absolutely not mind a evil Alyx of some sort.

 

[LandStander]

I'm sick of destroying vast armies and overcoming insurmountable odds and having no one there to witness it. That is what's great about Alyx.
Also, I'm not so sure that the G-Man could turn Alex against Gordon. When the vortigaunts were healing Alyx with the extract, they used Gordon in their seance and binded her life with his own. Quite a connection to break.

 

[akrippler]

Yeah I've always got the feeling that the G-Man is trying to use Alyx to maybe get whatever he wants out of Gordon. I wouldnt say he using Alyx as a spy because he has been obviously following/watching Gordon since even before Alyx came around. As you've already seen the second Alyx gets hurt Gordon is there to save the day.

So kind of like superheroes, they keep their identity seceret so the bad-guys cant hurt/use anyone close to them, well when Gordon awoke in City 17 he really didint ahve anyone like that, maybe hes using Alyx to give you that much more of a reason to do whatever he tells you.

 

[Absinthe]

The brilliance of the G-Man is that he plans and arranges situations so well that you end up doing his bidding even if you're unaware of it.

In Half-Life 2, he just dropped you into a scenario with no directives. All your motivation in the game was from other characters. And yet in the end you still achieved his aims. Instead of ordering you around, he sets you off on a path where any and all motivation is felt personally, safely sidestepping the issue of you resisting his will.

Alyx is a prime motivator in Gordon's experiences. While I am sure she's unaware of it, she's probably being used as a tool that reliably gets Freeman where the G-Man wants him. Need him to muck around at Nova Prospekt? Get Alyx to go and he'll follow. Need to lead him to the heart of the citadel? Put her and her father in its captivity. Need that data sent to White Forest? I think you get the idea. While he may not have initially foreseen it, I'm sure he's come to recognize her as highly valuable in exerting his influence on Gordon.

 

[Asknoone]

He's clearly making the best of a situation he had no intention of being in. He left Alyx to be vaporized at the Citadel summit, and was about to send Freeman off onto his next assignment. The Vortigaunt's intervened on both accounts, and although initially pissed at this (no doubt he get a lot of heat from those who wanted to hire Freeman), he seems to have wormed his way in via a new angle, and is indirectly manipulating events.

“Unforeseen consequences” was simply another way of indirectly moving events in a suitable direction for him. I'm not sure Alyx is so much a problem, because he seems to have the same control over her as he does Gordon at this point – not much, but I can eventually see him 'plucking' her much like he does Gordon for his own means. Absinthe is pretty much spot on in terms of what he's saying. I think it's obvious “Unforeseen Consequences” was a kind of double bluff, and he's simply playing on Eli's obvious motivation regarding the Borealis. He probably wants it destroyed.

I think we can all agree the Gman is awesome.

 

[kingkuttar]

Just because the G-Man can seemingly control Alyx does not mean that he is going to make her do anything bad to Gordon.

 

[comoxer]

In Half-Life 2, he just dropped you into a scenario with no directives. All your motivation in the game was from other characters. And yet in the end you still achieved his aims. Instead of ordering you around, he sets you off on a path where any and all motivation is felt personally, safely sidestepping the issue of you resisting his will.

Thats Interesting, Ive never really thought about that before. Seems quite hubris for gman to do that, willing to risk his "assignment" by throwing gordon into the fray without any idea of what he is suppose to do.

The whole thing with him having control of you/alyx kind of reminds of Bioshock the whole "Would you Kindly thing?"

 

[Asknoone]

That's what made the ending of Half-life 2 so brilliant for me, actually. Gman delivers some cryptic wording to you in the opening, without giving you any real direction, but puts you on the right path and subtly directs you to where he wants to go. Half-life 2 lasts for three days, and all you see of Gman since that time you first had direct contact with him in the opening, is brief glances of him walking into the distance. Three days is just long enough to lull you into this sense of false security – long to forget the control he has over you. Caught in the moment of stopping Breen it just totally catches you off guard completely, and you're right back where you were in the beginning. It's very clever and very subtle.

 

[Nitre]

*snip*

It's technically 10 days if you factor in the time Gordon and Alyx were in the slow teleport :E

 

[Asknoone]

Critic.

 

[SpotEnemyBoats]

During the scene when the Gman is seen on the tv screen's and Alyx see's the Gman and tells Eli the line. You know after Eli tells Gordon about that day at the test chamber, Our Mutual friend, etc and Alyx returns. For a second she looks at Gordon awkwardly, a very unorthodoxed "look"

To me it was like she was suspicious of what Eli and Gordon were talking about, until the Great Magnusson came in with a hilarious line.

 

[jpventoso]

The brilliance of the G-Man is that he plans and arranges situations so well that you end up doing his bidding even if you're unaware of it.

In Half-Life 2, he just dropped you into a scenario with no directives.

Exactly. You came in the station, a miscount appears, and next thing you know is that you're being chased by some weird-pseudohuman-cops. You get a gun, then the crowbar, kill a few of them at first, then some more, and there you are, starting some kind of citizen's revolution against the Combine.

Just awesome.

 

[bbson john]

What I know is Alyx was hypnotised by G-man when G-man appeared at the screen. You can see her eyes were soulless until after she uttered the words. So I guess Alyx is not evil when she is in her free will. But G-man will probably make use of her to against Gordon through hypnotism later.

 

[ríomhaire]

I always did wonder about Alyx's magical ability to find you in Point Insertion and Anticitizen 1 (Or was it Follow Freeman?), especially in the latter. She just shows up and says something about expecting to find you there.

Strange how he seems to use her completly differently to how he uses Gordon. She seems to be manipulated slightly more directly (Unless Gordon is too, without us realising it?).

Another random point: Did anyone notice how Alyx doesn't seem to notice when advisors flash on the screens right in front of her eyes? It happens just before Exit 17 and it happens in Riding Shotgun. Is the girl blind? I can't see a reason for the g-man manipulating her about something so small.

Last point. Anyone else notice that the g-man actually gives you an order in EP2? That hasn't happened before.

 

[FrostXian]

I always did wonder about Alyx's magical ability to find you in Point Insertion and Anticitizen 1 (Or was it Follow Freeman?), especially in the latter. She just shows up and says something about expecting to find you there.

Indeed, we all remember how Gordon was so randomly saved by Alyx, specially the first time.

Another random point: Did anyone notice how Alyx doesn't seem to notice when advisors flash on the screens right in front of her eyes? It happens just before Exit 17 and it happens in Riding Shotgun. Is the girl blind? I can't see a reason for the g-man manipulating her about something so small.

Well, we do not know who is controlling G-man himself. He's said that when he decided to pluck out Alyx from Black Mesa, his employer back then (Breen's face flashes on the screen here) disagreed initially.
So maybe.. nah.[/QUOTE]

Last point. Anyone else notice that the g-man actually gives you an order in EP2? That hasn't happened before.

He's had his plans ruined, or more like "forced to change".
It's normal he acts unlike himself.

Alas; I shall now point something out, something fairly new.
While the citizens are rebelling against the combine and taking down the breencast screens, you can see G-man's face flashing on them. Is he provoking(they don't need it but..) the people? Is he aiming to replace Breen (since as I pointed out, it's possible they worked together before)? Back when Barney finds you, just a second before him revealing his face, you are able to see g-man's face flash on the screen behind him. Did he activate something in Barney too, or is he just monitoring, seeing if we'll be fine in the "torture" room? When we enter the trailer with the vortigaunt watching tv, G-man is on it, is the G-man contacting him? The people in general? Was he the one who made the vortigaunt there help us, by.. I forgot what he did? (Ammo and opening a passage, I think). We already know he is how we obtain the RPG.
Perhaps he's behind more than we assume, after all, he needs to control ALOT of aspects in Gordon's path to direct him just as he wishes to.