half-life 2 plot going off the rails?

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i dont know about you, but i think the plot of this half-life is going astray from the original-

no more military/black-ops (so far)- they where an important part of the original, they have seemed to have been left out

no more xen aliens (practically)- all i have seen is a few zombies

the combine- the role of enemy in the game has seem to have been replaced by the combine, its like a totally different game with no relation to half-life 1 alltogether!

no more xen- no a single visit to the borderworld this time round

no more portals- no visit to xen, as well as no portals

have they completely lost the idea of continuing a story? the game might as well be called "The Comibe" or something!
 
well it is quite a bit later - and without a doubt the stories will be interlinked with eachother - but we don't have a clue story-wise yet so you really shouldn't make assumptions. Couldn't this point have been made in the other topic :P :)
 
Weren't all the stories (sequels included) put together when the original half-life was still in the beginning stages? If so, then I'd say the plot is going right where it intends to.
 
1. Learn to use the English language.

2. Keep this stuff in the right forum. Anything related to the content or what you think] the content will be belongs in rumors and ideas.
 
Laidlaw (the series' writer) says he had a general concept of where he wanted it to go, but hadn't written it all beforehand or anything. I garuntee the plots will be deeply connected with each other, the problem is we just have no idea how yet.
 
ACLeroK212 said:
Weren't all the stories (sequels included) put together when the original half-life was still in the beginning stages? If so, then I'd say the plot is going right where it intends to.


He's just whining because it's not a carbon copy of the original with a new engine.
 
Kristafon said:
i dont know about you, but i think the plot of this half-life is going astray from the original-

no more military/black-ops (so far)- they where an important part of the original, they have seemed to have been left out.
The military was there to clean up Black Mesa. I'd say the combine wiped out the military.

no more xen aliens (practically)- all i have seen is a few zombies.
We know at LEASE Headcrabs, zombies, bullsquid, barnicles and vortigronts are in, and most likely others

the combine- the role of enemy in the game has seem to have been replaced by the combine, its like a totally different game with no relation to half-life 1 alltogether!
Ohh...theres a relation, but since you don't know, I won't spoil it

no more xen- no a single visit to the borderworld this time round
they did mention a Xen on earth is possible...

no more portals- no visit to xen, as well as no portals
We know we won't go to xen, but we have NO idea if protals will abound or not.

have they completely lost the idea of continuing a story? the game might as well be called "The Comibe" or something!

I think it will certainly feel like a continuation of HL1. We know sooo littly of this game. 2 hours of a 50+ hour game....
 
Mr.Magnetichead said:
1. Learn to use the English language.

2. Keep this stuff in the right forum. Anything related to the content or what you think] the content will be belongs in rumors and ideas.

oh good god please no anouther "cant do anything right" fourm

half-life 2 hasnt been released yet, so whatever we say about it will be rumors in some way
 
O cool, I see you already precisely know what's gonna happen in HL2, mind sharing it with me?
 
Kristafon said:
so whatever we say about it will be rumors in some way

exactly, so why didn't you post this in the rumors thread instead?
 
Kristafon said:
i dont know about you, but i think the plot of this half-life is going astray from the original-

no more military/black-ops (so far)- they where an important part of the original, they have seemed to have been left out

no more xen aliens (practically)- all i have seen is a few zombies

the combine- the role of enemy in the game has seem to have been replaced by the combine, its like a totally different game with no relation to half-life 1 alltogether!

no more xen- no a single visit to the borderworld this time round

no more portals- no visit to xen, as well as no portals

have they completely lost the idea of continuing a story? the game might as well be called "The Comibe" or something!


Half life is more than a plot, it is a game. And gameplay has to continually evolve and offer the nit picking public something new to keep them satisfied.
If HL2 was nothing more than the same plot and enemies from the original not only would Valve be doing gamers a disservice, but also themselves.

I am sure that HL2 will be very much like HL1, without Blackops and traveling to Xen, but that remains to be seen.
 
He doesn't know how Half-Life 2 is gonna go hes just having an anxiety attack.
 
ACLeroK212 said:
exactly, so why didn't you post this in the rumors thread instead?

because its not a rumor- have you heard a rumor about the release date? im sure you have, go an talk about it in the rumor thread

did you hear a rumor going around that the plot of half-life 2 is going off the rails? no you havnt, because one dosent exist, therefore, i dont post it the rumor forum

understand? christs sake, all i wanted to do was talk about half-life 2!
 
Mr.Magnetichead said:
He's just whining because it's not a carbon copy of the original with a new engine.

Tell him not to worry, That one is being made. :)
 
was you expecting he gets hired by some other company and the exact thing happens?

"1 big mac"
".." (gordon is mute)
"sir?"
"......"
"umm.....1 big mac with coke please?"
".. ..., ...!"
"fine, ill go to burger king"

*customer trips on wet floor and falls at such speed that he rips open a hole in time and space and aliens attack macdonalds


/me must lay off the juice
 
Kristafon said:
because its not a rumor- have you heard a rumor about the release date? im sure you have, go an talk about it in the rumor thread

did you hear a rumor going around that the plot of half-life 2 is going off the rails? no you havnt, because one dosent exist, therefore, i dont post it the rumor forum

understand? christs sake, all i wanted to do was talk about half-life 2!


Cut the attitude.

You have only just joined this forum. Show respect for the regulars and POST IN THE RIGHT FORUM!
 
Kristafon said:
because its not a rumor- have you heard a rumor about the release date? im sure you have, go an talk about it in the rumor thread

did you hear a rumor going around that the plot of half-life 2 is going off the rails? no you havnt, because one dosent exist, therefore, i dont post it the rumor forum

understand? christs sake, all i wanted to do was talk about half-life 2!

anything concering the direction the plot is taking, or whether or not it's going to divert from the original is entirely sceptical, because we do not know the whole plot yet, so yes, this does belong in the rumors and speculations forum.

understand?
 
Zetahl2world said:
50 + hours? dont make me laugh

I've heard 40 myself. But yes, valve does say the game will take longer than the average FPS. Although, I'm sure those that really try to fly through it will be able to do it in much less time.
 
Mr.Magnetichead said:
Cut the attitude.
I can't see any attitude. Please enlighten me.

Mr.Magnetichead said:
You have only just joined this forum. Show respect for the regulars and POST IN THE RIGHT FORUM!
Ah, but what if this is just an honest mistake? And what has making mistakes got to do with "showing respect for the regulars"?
 
please, there's no need to start pointing fingers and igniting flame wars
 
its supposed to be 12 chapters that are gonna be 3 to 4 hours long
 
Varg|Hund said:
I can't see any attitude. Please enlighten me.


Ah, but what if this is just an honest mistake? And what has making mistakes got to do with "showing respect for the regulars"?

Because he's done it two consecutive threads with warnings in each.
 
There is no military because the Combine is running a secret police state..... The military has long since been wiped out.
 
LordXizor said:
There is no military because the Combine is running a secret police state..... The military has long since been wiped out.


Cool...So when did you play the game?
 
Mr.Magnetichead said:
Cool...So when did you play the game?

I like how you tell people to cut the attitude, but nearly every single post coming from you in this forum has been critiquing or criticizing someone for something they posted.
 
ACLeroK212 said:
I like how you tell people to cut the attitude, but nearly every single post coming from you in this forum has been critiquing or criticizing someone for something they posted.


Do as I say not as I do.

I don't like people making assumptions about things they know nothing about.

I am not afraid to call them up on it.
 
Mr.Magnetichead said:
Cool...So when did you play the game?
It's actually been said in interviews and is readily apparent if you watch the videos....... I wish I had played the game; no, I will not download the stolen build.
 
I've just been reading this thread... couldn't make it though the first page...

Wut's the average age group posting on here? like 12?

Im not cussin anyone im just bringing this concept to the table... use grammer in mind before writing anything, cause i feel a lot of these flames are started by means of misunderstanding posts and making character assumptions of someone...

Anyways, I think HL1 & HL2 are extreamly well linked together story wise... I see no need to skitz out on wether they are or not. Get a life dude...

Note: i haven't read second page so this post is totally made upon the first. I fear reading both pages may cause brain hemrages (sp??) for the reasons of bad grammer. lol j/k
 
LordXizor said:
It's actually been said in interviews and is readily apparent if you watch the videos....... I wish I had played the game; no, I will not download the stolen build.


That's the case for C17 yes, but the rest of the world is still a mystery.
 
Envi_81 said:
Note: i haven't read second page so this post is totally made upon the first. I fear reading both pages may cause brain hemrages (sp??) for the reasons of bad grammer. lol j/k
Oi! Ye bastard, you missed my mindboggling grammar! :(
 
Ok, now we can agree. I was talking about C17 and what ever else the Big Brother guy has jurisdiction over. This IS an assumption, I'd say minimally C1-C16????? But that's speculation, bad Xizor.
 
no more military/black-ops (so far)- they where an important part of the original, they have seemed to have been left out - There is BlackOps & Military involved, look at some of the concept art and you will see that.

no more xen aliens (practically)- all i have seen is a few zombies - Uh, Headcrabs, Zombies, The water aliens, Barnacles, and Bullsquid, Vortiguant, and alot of others are returning.

the combine- the role of enemy in the game has seem to have been replaced by the combine, its like a totally different game with no relation to half-life 1 alltogether! - How would you know? You haven't even played it

no more xen- no a single visit to the borderworld this time round - Oh well

no more portals- no visit to xen, as well as no portals - And you base this off of what?
 
LordXizor said:
Ok, now we can agree. I was talking about C17 and what ever else the Big Brother guy has jurisdiction over. This IS an assumption, I'd say minimally C1-C16?????
Probarly more. Something tells me that the Union would have one thing or two things to say about someone occupying eastern europe, so the rest of Europe is probarly dominated by the combine too. Same goes for russia, oceania and the american continent too.
So, the question arises: Why is C17 so important? A small, eastern euoropean city. Why not Berlin? Why not Paris? Why not Rome? What so special about C17?
Is it the tower? The pizza? Something else?

/me is speculating.
 
Mr.Magnetichead said:
1. Learn to use the English language.

2. Keep this stuff in the right forum. Anything related to the content or what you think] the content will be belongs in rumors and ideas.


WTF, who made you the Forum Nazi? People throwing their 2 cents in, trying to uphold the structure of the forums like a moderator or some shit are annoying as fuk. Go do something.

On topic: While the combine are new, and there are no portals to Zen, and the environment is completely different, I still think the story (from what I've seen) will do fine as a sequel. The game wouldn't be as exciting if it was just a rehash of the first. Stories are best when they grow and venture new places. And plus, I didn't much care for the Zen levels anyway.
 
Dsty2001 said:
no more military/black-ops (so far)- they where an important part of the original, they have seemed to have been left out - There is BlackOps & Military involved, look at some of the concept art and you will see that.

no more xen aliens (practically)- all i have seen is a few zombies - Uh, Headcrabs, Zombies, The water aliens, Barnacles, and Bullsquid, Vortiguant, and alot of others are returning.

the combine- the role of enemy in the game has seem to have been replaced by the combine, its like a totally different game with no relation to half-life 1 alltogether! - How would you know? You haven't even played it

no more xen- no a single visit to the borderworld this time round - Oh well

no more portals- no visit to xen, as well as no portals - And you base this off of what?

Ok-

1.I base this on what I have seen in the movies and screenshots

2.I am discussing the possibility of what I said in the first place and backed it up

3.I am not saying it for definate, i am discussing a concern I have from what I have seen, i am not forcing it on anyone, i am not even saying I think it for sure, its just something that i was wondering about and wanted to ask other people for their own opinion, rather than them critising mine
 
Yes, I was guessing lots more too, like a major continental influence.
 
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