Meditating Vortiguant?

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Ok, so I found this vortiguant spewing info about the story in a secret pipe by in the canals. See the screenshots attached.

Among other things, he says:

1. We shall prevail.
2. We remember the Freeman, we are coterminus.
3. No distance or false veils of time may intervene.
4. We see you still in Black Mesa in the Nihilanth's chamber.
5. This more than any one can bear but we preserve.
6. You are one between worlds.
7. Where now and to what end?
8. Your bright face obscures your darker mask.

I am paraphrasing a bit, and he also says a lot more. Mostly about how we are the same, and how important freedom is.
 

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thats an interesting post, like the nilhilanths quotes at the end of hl1 when he basically says that the gman is not a man

We see you still in Black Mesa in the Nihilanth's chamber.

interesting, i wonder what it means?, and im sure mark laidlaw will never tell us :D
 
Thats just given me an interesting thought,
everyones complaining about th story etc, but what if there are a lot more of these secrets?

mabye there are more characters telling more shit.
 
4. We see you still in Black Mesa in the Nihilanth's chamber.
- does that mean he still sees you in Black Mesa and in the Nihilanth's chamber or does it mean you were actually still in Black Mesa when you thought you were in the Nihilanth's chamber?

6. You are one between worlds.
- could just mean you're cought between the war between combine and humans (BTW, do the combine also come from Zen or are they from a completely different planet? Maybe Zen just attracts attention as a way-point for teleportation?)

8. Your bright face obscures your darker mask.
- could have something to do with the fact you're beeing contracted/manipulated by the Gman?

Thoughts anyone?
 
Damn right it's interesting. What if Alyx and others don't exist!?!? woot.
 
Atomi said:
Damn right it's interesting. What if Alyx and others don't exist!?!? woot.
Oh god no, don't make me start thinking about the MGS2 storyline.

Now my brain hurts.
 
Many of the vort's spew a lot of interesting info... Like the one who attaches the gun to your airboat, or the one in Eli Vance's Lab...
 
Maybe the combine live on xen, but they are the superior beings on the planet, and the "animals" of the planet are the antlions etc...


The vorts, they say some pretty interesting stuff.. but im sure its all to make you more confused as to what everything is about... as the gman can bend reality, and stop time... maybe where gman is from there is no time so he can "cut" through the fabric of space without actually being in "time"... *brain overload* :P
 
numlocked said:
Ok, so I
4. We see you still in Black Mesa in the Nihilanth's chamber.

To me, that suggests ownership. eg, it was nihlanth's test chamber.. a force from xen (gman maybe???) was controling the events of black mesa?
 
6. You are one between worlds.

Could this mean Freeman is one with someone from another world ?
Like Freemans body but an alien mind, as if Gordons body is the HOST ?

I thought maybe this could be the same with G-Man, an alien with a human host, which would explain his strange handle of speech.

Oh I don't know, bloody Trilogy :P
 
2. We remember the Freeman, we are coterminus.
Definitions of Coterminous on the Web:

Two or more leases that are linked so that both will terminate at the same time.
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Two or more leases that end at the same time.
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Referring to multiple, related, lease agreements having the same term length, and ending at the same time.
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A sphere may be designated for a city or special district that is the same as its existing boundaries if there is no anticipated need for services outside the boundaries of the agency, or if there is insufficient information to support inclusion of additional territory within the sphere.
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coextensive: of equal extent or scope or duration
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn
My, my, my.
 
ksimm said:
6. You are one between worlds.

Could this mean Freeman is one with someone from another world ?
Like Freemans body but an alien mind, as if Gordons body is the HOST ?

I thought maybe this could be the same with G-Man, an alien with a human host, which would explain his strange handle of speech.

Oh I don't know, bloody Trilogy :P
I don't see how Gordon could be controlled by and alien mind as his mind is essentially ours, as the player, seeing as we control him.

And MiccyNarc the line "We remember the Freeman, we are coterminus." could simply mean they have the same goals in common, as in, defeating the combine. Although it's very possible I'm wrong.
 
As far as I can tell, he says the same things as the one that welds the gun on your mudskipper.

If you hear the full speech you get a feel for the concepts he's so eloquently describing in various poetic, yet pointless ways.

1. We shall prevail.
>>>We (or better yet I, as he seems to be speaking about himself in plural. It's the same really as he says multiple times that all vortigaunts are "connected", a "web of vortessence" in his own words. And that you are the same, so basically it's an all in one package. Reminds me of buddhism) are fighting for freedom and I have complete faith we will conquer the nasty combine with your help.
2. We remember the Freeman, we are coterminus.
>>>Nice to meet you again mr Freeman. And either his name is Coterminus, or he means to say our faiths are intertwined, our paths are connected, etc...we have the same end-goal.
3. No distance or false veils of time may intervene.
>>>this would mean "I love you" if you said it to your gf.
But he's trying to make it clear to you that even though you skipped ahead in time compared to them, you shouldn't let that stop you from trusting them.
4. We see you still in Black Mesa in the Nihilanth's chamber.
>>>We can see through time more or less and/or have vivid memories of what happened in HL1. You could look at it in two ways, either he sees you in black mesa and he sees you, again, because he sees everything at the same time (with his mind's eye) in the nihilanths chamber. In which case it's a summary in poor/poetic English. Or, he sees you in the context of the black mesa story and events in the nihilanths chamber.
5. This more than any one can bear but we preserve.
>>>We will persevere is what he says, and it just means they will push on no matter the casualties, to rebel against the combine. They are zealots, religious fanatics really. The ideal ally in many ways.
6. You are one between worlds.
>>>You are the link between your fellow humans and us vortigaunts, you're the only one who was able to go back and forth between xen and earth and lived to tell the tale. The only one that did anything meaningfull (free them from slavery by nihilanth) for them anyway.
7. Where now and to what end?
>>> Ponderings about life and probably more specifically what about those combine out there.
8. Your bright face obscures your darker mask.
>>>You seem like a happy lil scientist, and a friendly person at that, but you've killed many, including vortigaunts. You seem harmless on/to the outside, but there's more to it apparantly, given what you've accomplished.
 
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