Messianic gordon!

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Ok, i guess we will all agree that freeman now has an "holy" reputation, especially to the vortigaunts who seem (in an alien way) very shamanic.

Now, gordon didn't die in the explosion, but he was there so probably everyone will think he was dead and came back to life to "save" them (when he comes back that is). Just like the messiah.

What do you guys think about it? Done in a VALVe way, it's possible.
 
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chimpmunk said:
Ok, i guess we will all agree that freeman now has an "holy" reputation, especially to the vortigaunts who seem (in an alien way) very shamanic.

Now, gordon didn't die in the explosion, but he was there so probably everyone will think he was dead and came back to life to "save" them (when he comes back that is). Just like the messiah.

What do you guys think about it? Done in a VALVe way, it's possible.

Well, who's to say your going to come back to City 17 in the next Half-Life?

Who's to say that the explosion you caused by stopping Breen didn't destroy the city, and it inhabitants?

Gordon, is no Messiah. But he is recognized as the one free man..a citizen of change who can turn the tide in the darkest hours.

Valve stressed that Gordon speaks because you (the player) are Gordon Freeman. In all the chaos, everyone does look to you for what to do..but all in all you have no idea of what to do. You are just a regular guy just winging it..just like you and I...and like the origins of Gordon. Gordon was just doing his job, and now look what he's doing!

Sorry for the rant. In conclusion Gordon is no Messiah, Gordon is just a regular guy like you and me. :cheers:
 
Plus, the Gman has many connections to local and governmental authorities. There are probably many who know of his time-warping power.
 
Plus, the Gman has many connections to local and governmental authorities. There are probably many who know of his time-warping power.

He hasnt got time-warping power
 
Whatever. He can put time on it's knees and command it to crawl.
 
Originally posted by Pesmerga
Whatever. He can put time on it's knees and command it to crawl.

No he cant...he cant even control time in the slightest

Originally posted by He_Who_Is_Steve
Time-warp power...ACTIVATE!

:laugh:
 
HyperionCC said:
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Gordon, is no Messiah. But he is recognized as the one free man..a citizen of change who can turn the tide in the darkest hours.

That sounds pretty Mesaanic to me

And G-man dosn't control time, if he did he wouldn't nead to recruit rouge physisists.
I had a dream last night that G-man was a robot :eek:
 
chimpmunk said:
Ok, i guess we will all agree that freeman now has an "holy" reputation, especially to the vortigaunts who seem (in an alien way) very shamanic.

Now, gordon didn't die in the explosion, but he was there so probably everyone will think he was dead and came back to life to "save" them (when he comes back that is). Just like the messiah.

What do you guys think about it? Done in a VALVe way, it's possible.

Gordon Freeman isn't considered holy, not even by the vortigaunts. They consider him the only 'free' man. And anyways, the Messiah really did die, not just appeared to.


ríomhaire said:
That sounds pretty Mesaanic to me

And G-man dosn't control time, if he did he wouldn't nead to recruit rouge physisists.
I had a dream last night that G-man was a robot :eek:

Why wouldn't he recruit rouge physisists? If he could control the future, he can see the reactions for each of his actions, and would know exactly who to pick. And Gordon was a good choice.




As for that idiot who said Gordon could control time, this isn't PoP.
 
being an atheist, i have to firstly say FUK OFF with the christian-half life connections, i mean honestly they have no relation at all!

Gordon didnt die in the explosion, he was whisked away before he had chance to die!

gordon is not jesus, wow i mean, i can see him walking up to kids and touching them and saying "i have healed you biatch!"

rofl wat a fruitcake idea.
 
bboymatty said:
being an atheist, i have to firstly say FUK OFF with the christian-half life connections, i mean honestly they have no relation at all!

Behave, kiddo.

Maybe you are not a christian, but that shouldn't make you (rudely) throw away a plausible theory. It has been seen over and over again that a(n) (abstraction of a) messiah theme is used to form a story.
 
^I agree.

It is actualy plausible that the gman is a robot, in the original halflife if you hit him with a crowbar he med a "hit metal sound" and sparks flew off. THough this was probably more of a twisted easter egg.
 
FireCrack said:
^I agree.

It is actualy plausible that the gman is a robot, in the original halflife if you hit him with a crowbar he med a "hit metal sound" and sparks flew off.

I don't remember ever getting the chance to hit him- he was always behind a window or something...

(but it has been years since I played it)
 
Sorry for the rant. In conclusion Gordon is no Messiah, Gordon is just a regular guy like you and me.

A regular guy who can run forever, never sleep, never eat, and climb up ladders backwards while holding a two-handed weapon.

I don't remember ever getting the chance to hit him- he was always behind a window or something...

There were some places where he was close enough that when you shot him, you could see the sparks fly off. In Power-Up, where the G-man watches you run past Gargantuan, if you put trip mines under the "window", you can 'climb' them and get up to the G-Man and hit him with a crowbar.
 
I think Gordon fits the 'messiah' archetype, not because he's holy per se, but the whole going away/suddenly returning thing coincides with the death/resurrection theme of that particular archetype.
This is an EXTREMELY common theme in mythology, not only with the Christian texts, but in the Egyptian myth of Isis/Ra, the Norse myth of Odin, etc.

He also fits the bill of the classic hero archetype, someone who is either divine, partially divine, or possesses something that makes him more powerful in some way. Hercules is another classic hero, who was the son of a mortal woman and of course the Greek god Zeus. So what the superhuman strength is to Hercules, the HEV suit and crowbar is to Gordon. The reason this type of character is so popular is because he's an average Joe who suffers just like every other human being, but happens to have a special talent.

(Woo, now I know what to write a research paper on for my Mythology seminar! 10 page midterm, here I come! :E)
 
Pai-Mei said:
A regular guy who can run forever, never sleep, never eat, and climb up ladders backwards while holding a two-handed weapon.

Actually, he can't run forever. He only runs for a very short time before the aux power will reach the bottom. I read a post where someone had tried to measure Gordon's walking and running speed, and the conclusion was that he is kind of unfit :) ... But then again, you are right about the ladder climbing, though.
 
Actually, he can't run forever. He only runs for a very short time before the aux power will reach the bottom. I read a post where someone had tried to measure Gordon's walking and running speed, and the conclusion was that he is kind of unfit ... But then again, you are right about the ladder climbing, though.

Hmmm... really? Well, at least in Half-Life 1, I know that Gordon was a ****in' speed demon... you were really, really fast without aux power.

In Half-Life2, while you can only sprint for a short time, I think its because Gordon really can't sprint "naturally" in the big, heavy, HEV suit that can take a rocket launcher to the gut and provide its own atmosphere. So the sprint power is all from the suit; without the suit in HL2, Gordon cannot sprint at all... he is out of shape, even if his natural walking speed seems a little bit more than normal, its less than a good "power walk."

Still though, in Half-Life 1, even in the part without the HEV suit, you were FAST. Maybe Gordon was rushing because he was late for work, or maybe he put on a few pounds over the years in stasis.
 
In halflife 1 gordon was fast because he was running like a pansy. In halflife 2 gordon walks slower becasue it's more... intimidating that way.
 
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