MS and Sony agree

[Asus]

I find this quite funny.
Microsoft and Sony both recommend you buy a Wii.

Nintendo really should make a comment on this. lol
"Everyone agrees, buy a Wii."

Sorry if this was posted before.

 

[ailevation]

Sounds like Nintendo is playing it smart! Just when everbody thought that they were going to fall off.

Nintendo is just playing the middle man in the Sony v.s. Microsoft console dispute. Both companies support themselves and the Wii. That means Nintendo is gonna pull a fast one and top the sales.

 

[Ikerous]

Someone's sig pokes fun at this very thing, i forget whose

But man, the Wii is gonna do really great
Can't wait till it's released

 

[VirusType2]

Nintendo did the same thing as well and even came right out within the first few minutes of their press conference and said, "If you are looking for the best graphics then look to the other next-gen systems, because you won't find that here."

If you think about it, it's nothing short of incredible what Nintendo has done here to get competitors to promote their system. I've never seen anything like this.

 

[dream431ca]

Nintendo did the same thing as well and even came right out within the first few minutes of their press conference and said, "If you are looking for the best graphics then look to the other next-gen systems, because you won't find that here."

If you think about it, it's nothing short of incredible what Nintendo has done here to get competitors to promote their system. I've never seen anything like this.

Well, that's Nintendo for ya. They did it with the N64 and the Super Nintendo, now they're doing it again.

 

[The Brick]

This made my day. I love nintendo and what they are doing for the gaming industry. There's no way I'm not gonna buy the Wii. Only the fact that the next Metroid will be on that system is enough for me, but it has waaay more things that I like.

 

[Somefool]

That's nice, all 3 are supporting each other... wait a minute... do I smell a conspiracy?

 

[VirusType2]

That's nice, all 3 are supporting each other... wait a minute... do I smell a conspiracy?

Well not quite. Microsoft and Sony are arch-enemies.

It's a vicious veritable love triangle. Seriously though, it's all marketing. The Wii is such a big hit, they [MS/Sony] are afraid they would outcast themselves by saying anything bad against the Wii.

Microsoft is using this opportunity to mention that you can buy a graphics powerhouse 360 and a Wii for the price of a PS3, while Sony is saying that the Wii is a good diversion and a great system, but when you want to play games with incredible graphics, you will play PS3.

Thats all there is to it, they aren't supporting each other.

 

[Nabobalis]

Very good news for Nintendo.

 

[Anthraxxx]

Oh man. How many of you read all of that Microsoft link? I just sat here and read that entire discussion, and that has to be the most reasonable( aka- No glaring fanboyism) about Sony ps3 vs. Xbox 360. A large majority of the user comments make good points and support their arguements. I highly suggest that you take a look at those discussions.

 

[Zephos]

You know what, I'm going to pre-order a Wii...camp out for it and then go in there shouting my support for Nintendo (well, maybe not that far, but I will camp out ). First game I want for it has got to be The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, I can just smell the best game ever in this one

Glad the other companies are actually voicing their support for it, makes them seem all the less evil and money hungry. What happens when the Wii and PS3 (hey, it rhymes!) comes out will be very interesting.

 

[VictimOfScience]

Yeah, saw both of these comments when they hit the scene. Not surprising in the least. These powerhouses like MS and Sony have to realize that their systems are just a little too expensive to really attract the casual gamers and the non-gamers which Nintendo is looking to do in spades! They have to come to grips with the fact that Nintendo might very well have much more marketshare than either of them because of the Wii's incredible potential to be one of the coolest thing to happen in videogames since the NES.

I truly truly hope that Nintendo dominates this "generation" the way Sony has the last 2. Both MS and Sony need to be taught what terms like "innovation," "free-thinking," and "next-gen" really mean. :thumbs:

 

[Dalamari]

It's funny, they both recommend the Wii after their console "Everyone will buy the Wii after they buy the PS3/Xbox 360"

 

[sabre0001]

Seems as their own consoles are so expensive, they probably want to cut their losses and not let their arch-enemy get sales! So by promoting the underdog, it keeps an enemy at bay (plus they think that Nintendo will never reach the scale of them)...

 

[Gray Fox]

I don't unserstand what most of you are rambling about. Offcourse they were going to say this, MS and sony's console are direct compettitors to one another, offcourse they want you to buy a Wii as a second console.

 

[Ren.182]

Woo. Free advertising again for the Wii
Funny what they're doing though, and Nintendo should put all this talk about the Wii to good use. If they do then the Wii will sell like hot cakes.

 

[Anthraxxx]

The breakdown:

Get an Xbox 360 + Nintendo Wii + a few games for each system = Same price as a PS3, a game or two, and an extra controller

Get a Wii and have 400 left over for games and peripherals at the expense of not having as large of a game library to choose from(at least during the beginning of the Wii, later on, titles will be more numerous) = Same price as a PS3


Get a PS3.



A few thoughts:

Somewhere in a magazine article, a sony rep scoffed at Microsoft for putting out two "flavors" of it's xbox 360 console stating that it was 'confusing for the consumer', and yet here is Sony putting out a cheaper 20 gig 'flavor' PS3 and the 'fully flavored' 60 gig PS3.

At least the core xbox system can be upgraded to be equivalent to the premium system. I'm not for sure, but I've seen and heard rumors that the 20gig version of the PS3 will not have the same capabilities as the 60gig one. Yes, it will still play PS3 games the same, but it won't have as many options available. Wifi/Bluetooth, HDMI, etc... Of course, I'm not for sure about that info. If it turns out to be true, then comparing flavors to flavors, Microsoft Core flavor would be better off than the PS3 20gig flavor simply because of upgradeability.

PS3 is fully backwards compatible. With a library of over 15,000 titles to choose from, how can you go wrong? Well, that's great, but how many of titles were actually good to play? 100? 200?

Blu-Ray. One of Sony's big features for the PS3 is Blu-Ray. It's a great technology. Vast amount of disc space that could fit entire seasons of television shows or a whole collections of home video all stored on one disc. The competing technology is HD-DVD. It's already out, and it's likely that more movies will come out in HD-DVD format. Of course, it holds less information when compared to Blu-Ray, so that can be seen at a disadvantage. The Xbox 360 has to sell a seperate external HD-DVD drive just to be able to play HD-DVD's. Of course, it's not so bad if HD wins the disc format wars. Of course, if that happens, then what will PS3 be left with? If Blu-Ray wins out, MS can always make a Blu-Ray external disc drive.

FFS, the format wars haven't even finished, and they're already planning on having Blu-Ray be the dominant format. Anyone thinking VHS vs. Betamax?


Which brings me to my next point. How many of your actually bought a PS2 just for the dvd player? Most people, when they think of a console, think GAMES. The addition of a dvd player is just a perk. Chances are, if you were thinking of getting a dvd player, you went out and bought a dvd player. Besides, a dedicated DVD player looks much better sitting in your home theater cabinet than does a PS2.


"My E-Penis is bigger than your E-Penis"
When it comes down to pure numbers, the PS3 is the superior machine by a small margin.Visually, both systems will produce similar results. In the beginning, the PS3's visuals will look like crap compared to the hype that Sony has spread with it's pretty looking cgi *cough cough* Killzone 2 *cough*.... However, as with any console, the longer it's been out and the more time that developers get to spend with the console, but better the visuals. If this is the case, MS has had a year head start with developers already churning out games for the 360. It'll be a whole year after the lauch of the PS3 before we start seeing some real results on the PS3 as far as quality game titles go...

...Which leads me to my next thought...

The PS3 will be harder to programs games for, so publishing quality titles will take longer. With the integration of Windows Vista and the 360, no doubt that MS will start using their XNA framework. This will make it easier for MS to make games for both the 360 and the PC.


and my final thought... For now, the Xbox is the winner. It's the only next-gen console out, and it's got a bunch of great titles coming to by the end of the year. The PS3, when it is released, will be too expensive. Unless you've got the money to spend on it, don't bother until it get a price drop. Finally, get a Wii. You know you want one.

 

[VictimOfScience]

FFS, the format wars haven't even finished, and they're already planning on having Blu-Ray be the dominant format. Anyone thinking VHS vs. Betamax?

True. When the PS2 hit, DVD players were still fairly expensive and the PS2 did that and games. I actually bought a PS2 50% for games, 50% for DVDs, as I didn't have a DVD player at the time. It was even a little too early for buying it for games as the really good stuff didn't come out until the next year (looking like 2007 in the PS3 scenario). When the PS3 hits, there simply won't be that many HD titles (HD-DVD or Blu-Ray) that I actually care about buying again. With such a small amount of difference in quality between HD-DVD/Blu-Ray and current gen DVS as opposed to the difference between DVD and VHS, it makes little sense to go investing in this next-gen format. Why? Interactive menus? It makes sense for games but simply not for movies at all.

The PS3 will be harder to programs games for, so publishing quality titles will take longer. With the integration of Windows Vista and the 360, no doubt that MS will start using their XNA framework. This will make it easier for MS to make games for both the 360 and the PC.

You will notice that the only person who really has a problem with the PS3 is John "PC game engine" Carmack. Most other developers out there recognize the potential in Sony's pre-installed base and are putting forth huge amounts of money and effort to develop for the console. True that 360/PC compatibility is easy thanks to XNA, but many devs are also doing those and PS3. Plus, imho, if you can program well for the PS3, you are already a few steps ahead of many others since its architecture is more likely similar to the PC architecture you will see in the future. Just ask Intel....

and my final thought... For now, the Xbox is the winner. It's the only next-gen console out

Hahaha! Nice going Nostradamus. And I can only think of one title I would even consider wanting (Gears of War). And even that doesn't bring any real innovation to the table.

Finally, get a Wii. You know you want one.

Easily the best comment so far. :thumbs:

 

[Gargantou]

Here's a quote from the Mercenaries 2(So far PS3 exclusive) Official forums.

It's a question that's answered by Scott Warner, lead designer for the game.

"What do you think of the Playstation 3 and its technology?
Same for the 360 and the Wii."

"The PS3 is a powerful box and requires a lot of engineering effort to maximize its power. The 360 is easily my favorite console at launch ever - a good portion of my free time is spent playing everything from Oblivion to Uno! And the Wii... as a designer I am really excited by the possibilities the Wii presents to game development."

These guys did Full Spectrum Warriors and Mercenaries 1 for the PS2 amongst other things.

 

[CptStern]

FFS, the format wars haven't even finished, and they're already planning on having Blu-Ray be the dominant format. Anyone thinking VHS vs. Betamax?

lol, you're aging yourself ..I bet half the people here are scratching their heads and saying "b-e-t-a-max? what's betamax?"


some good points btw, although I did buy an xbox so that I didnt also have to buy a dvd player for the rec room ..if anything the blu-ray would be a selling point for me (if and only if it becomes the standard)

 

[JNightshade]

Sony: buy our shit and a Wii
Microsoft: buy OUR shit and a Wii
Nintendo: OMFGPWNT

\o/

 

[Sebastian]

I'm probably buying one just to see how the controller works. Plus they don't brag about "Next generation HD graphics" so I won't have to buy and HDTV

 

[Gray Fox]

The thing is with hd that makes it different for dvd was that to see the improvment of the dvd over vhs you did not need to by a whole new very expensive tv for the BR and HD-DVD you do need to do that. I think Sony has overe estimated itself and has gotten to greedy.

 

[Insano]

lol, you're aging yourself ..I bet half the people here are scratching their heads and saying "b-e-t-a-max? what's betamax?"


some good points btw, although I did buy an xbox so that I didnt also have to buy a dvd player for the rec room ..if anything the blu-ray would be a selling point for me (if and only if it becomes the standard)

I may be only 16, but I'm not an idiot.

 

[CptStern]

you've used betamax?

 

[SimonomiS]

PS3 = Hamburger
Xbox 360 = Chicken Burger
Wii = Fries

Everyone loves fries, either on their own, or as together with a ham or chicken burger.

Analogy works for me.

 

[Insano]

you've used betamax?

I haven't used it (if you don't count the adapted form, used in home camcorders), but that doesn't mean that I don't know the story of the epic battle between Betamax and VHS.

 

[VirusType2]

I haven't used it (if you don't count the adapted form, used in home camcorders), but that doesn't mean that I don't know the story of the epic battle between Betamax and VHS.

It wasn't exactly epic. It was over pretty fast.

Betamax and VHS were two competing video tape formats released at relatively the same time.

-The Betamax had a better picture but costed more. This could be compared to the increased storage size advantage and higher price of the Blu-Ray medium.

-The VHS was a little cheaper. This could be compared to the HD-DVD.


The VHS stomped the Betamax. Was it because it was slightly cheaper?

Now with Blu Ray, it doesn't even have a better picture over HD-DVD, it only has higher storage space. Going by history and this example, one would predict HD-DVD would completely and utterly destroy Blu-Ray.


Will people support two formats? I think it's quite possible. There are twice as many people on Earth this time which I think could be a factor. Twice as many people buying movie players. There are a million other variables that you can include to try and predict what will happen, but I think time will tell the story best.

 

[CptStern]

I haven't used it (if you don't count the adapted form, used in home camcorders), but that doesn't mean that I don't know the story of the epic battle between Betamax and VHS.

yes but you did notice that I said "half" the people ..not all ..and not because that half is old enough to remember betamax

oh and betamax has been used in the tv industry for years ..still is to some degree

 

[Insano]

It wasn't exactly epic. It was over pretty fast.

Betamax and VHS were two competing video tape formats released at relatively the same time.

-The Betamax had a better picture but costed more. This could be compared to the increased storage size advantage and higher price of the Blu-Ray medium.

-The VHS was a little cheaper. This could be compared to the HD-DVD.


The VHS stomped the Betamax. Was it because it was slightly cheaper?

Now with Blu Ray, it doesn't even have a better picture over HD-DVD, it only has higher storage space. Going by history and this example, one would predict HD-DVD would completely and utterly destroy Blu-Ray.


Will people support two formats? I think it's quite possible. There are twice as many people on Earth this time which I think could be a factor. Twice as many people buying movie players. There are a million other variables that you can include to try and predict what will happen, but I think time will tell the story best.

I know all that, I just put "epic" in there to make it sound cooler.

yes but you did notice that I said "half" the people ..not all ..and not because that half is old enough to remember betamax

oh and betamax has been used in the tv industry for years ..still is to some degree

But with the "you've used betamax?" statement, you insinuated that I was part of the group that didn't know what it was.

Ah well, just drop it

 

[Raziaar]

When I get my Wii, if I ever do... i'm going to spraypaint over the name.

Why couldn't they have gone with revolution... WHY!?

 

[JNightshade]

Because, as good a name as "Revolution" is, it doesn't have the mainstream feel Nintendo is going for. Hence, "Wii".

 

[Raziaar]

Because, as good a name as "Revolution" is, it doesn't have the mainstream feel Nintendo is going for. Hence, "Wii".

Wii doesn't make any sense! It doesn't even sound good to me! <sighs>

I know all the jokes about it have played out constantly, and i'm not interested in that... I am just disappointed. I will never call it the Wii, i'll always call it the revolution.

If people say Wii, i'll say What?

 

[The Brick]

Next systems will not be called 'weee 2' but 'nananana' and 'pffffrlt'. Get FireFox.

 

[MultiVaC]

Wii doesn't make any sense! It doesn't even sound good to me! <sighs>

I know all the jokes about it have played out constantly, and i'm not interested in that... I am just disappointed. I will never call it the Wii, i'll always call it the revolution.

If people say Wii, i'll say What?

Amen. If I get a Revolution I'm taping a piece or paper that says "Revolution" over every part that say "Wii". And "Wii" doesn't have a mainstream feel, it's more of a tard feel. The worst thing is what they call the controller though: "Wiimote". It sounds like a kid just learning to talk trying to say "remote". It will still probably be the best console, though.

As for Sony and MS, they are just using the Revolution as a childish method of putting the other down. The funny thing is that Nintendo is the real winner here.