My crazy way out theory [Spoilers for Ep2 and Portal]

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Okay so this is my theory about what connects episode two and portal; my evidence is as follows:

-Its been repeatedly noticed that portals architecture, style and general feel is some what remanisent of the combine.

-The portal technology they use is distinctly different to that of blackmesa's, and actually is more representative of the combines (think the end of Half Life 2, that portal that opened there is very similiar to what Portal's portals look like).

-We find out at the end, in the charming song, that GLaDOS is still alive after the final fight, and something about her reminds me of the Advisors from the episodes. (The way she hangs from the ceiling, and generally looks like a metallic version).

-We know something terrible must have happened at Aperature Science as Eli notes it near the end of Episode 2. The borealis is seen to have reappeared or some such as well but ignoring that for now.

So here goes, after presenting the above evidence what if after portal finished GLaDOS lives on, and uses the Portal technology some how (perhaps in accordance with the combines own portals?) She manages to slip her self and a large portion of her facility into another universe (Ala Xen, but obviously not Xen).

Once there she could then continue her experiments on other species without the hinderence of the moral inhibitor, and then starts produces biomechanical hybrids out of the creatures she experiments on. THUS GLaDOS PRODUCES THE COMBINE! GLaDOS doesn't know shes the combine of course (at the time of portal), and yes some time travel is involved here but I think the theory fits the evidence not bad. What you folks think?

NOTE: About GLaDOS looking like the advisors, perhaps GLaDOS eventually decides her mechanical brain isn't good enough and produces the biomechanoid that is the Advisor as a shell. Or perhaps they are created by her to control her vast armies?
 
I like your theory. Did you know that the same voice actor did the voice for both GLaDOS and the Combine Dispatch?
 
Elen ftw!

Her commentary nodes are the most entertaining ones.
 
She does both voices? No I didn't realise :o Could be a definate subtle connection there though, the overwatch being sub-versions of GLaDOS? Or maybe budget constraints >_> <_<
 
I would definitely be satisfied if the combine was run by an AI, especially if they didn't even know it.
 
I think portal takes place before the events of Half life 2. Because even though the laboratory seems cold and combine like, theres also things that make me think its taking place around the time of Half life 1, maybe right after the 7 hour war, or even before.
 
I don't like your theory.
I don't see a similarity between Combine and AS architecture.
I recently replayed HL2 and didn't see a portal that looked anything like those in Portal. On my machine Breen was being raised into this swirling mass of plates containing some sort of energy ball-type-thing. Not a discrete hole.
The fact that GLaDOS claims to still be alive proves nothing about a combine conection and the fact that it reminds you of Advisors is no evidence at all.
We don't know something terrible happened at AS, we know that Eli feels the Borialis represents some terrible, dangerous technology.
 
Its been repeatedly noticed that portals architecture, style and general feel is some what remanisent of the combine.
The Aperture Science Enrichment Center and Combine architecture look very different; textures associated with Combine building materials are nowhere to be found in Portal.

The portal technology they use is distinctly different to that of blackmesa's, and actually is more representative of the combines (think the end of Half Life 2, that portal that opened there is very similiar to what Portal's portals look like).
Then why hasn't the Universial Union achieved basic local teleportation yet, when Aperture can tunnel through two locations in the same universe?

We find out at the end, in the charming song, that GLaDOS is still alive after the final fight, and something about her reminds me of the Advisors from the episodes. (The way she hangs from the ceiling, and generally looks like a metallic version).
Most likely coincidential, plus GLaDOS has no psychic powers.

Once there she could then continue her experiments on other species without the hinderence of the moral inhibitor, and then starts produces biomechanical hybrids out of the creatures she experiments on. THUS GLaDOS PRODUCES THE COMBINE! GLaDOS doesn't know shes the combine of course (at the time of portal), and yes some time travel is involved here but I think the theory fits the evidence not bad. What you folks think?
It looks like you don't know your HL History. GLaDOS reveals that she's trying to keep an unknown force out. Either this force is the Combine or Xenians, and as we know from statements from Laidlaw, the Voritgaunts retreated to the Borderworld because of the Universial Union. Since Portal can only take place after the Resonance Cascade, it's impossible for GLaDOS to create the Combine at all.
 
Is Xen in another universe or just another one of uncountable trillions of solarsystems?
 
Is Xen in another universe or just another one of uncountable trillions of solarsystems?

It's a borderworld. Another reality that is a middlestep on the way to a whole range of other universes, and a middle-landing necessary for local teleportation.
 
Going purely from memory while it's called a border world it's talked about as if it's another dimension (my opinion). Considering the floating islands and general oddness compared with our physical rules and I'd also say it feels like a different dimension.
 
i dont like portals in HL, just because most people refer black holes to worm holes which is ofcourse not correct, in a black hole you either get ripped apart, boiled by gasses over a million degrees, and eventualy squashed to a point of infinite density outside our space-time (infinite redshift) the singularity. and ofcourse there is no proof whether the material that goes in gets out somewhere else, the singularity doesnt even work on any law of nature, everything is possible (yes also deviding by 0). the reason why its outside our space-time is because the object can have any mass at any scale (general relativity by einstein doesn't cover this, neither does quantum mechanics). the creation of black holes can only form when very massive stars collapse, there is no real evidence however how the supermassive blackholes came to be in the center of galaxies. not even to mention the closest black hole is 6000 lightyears away (56,764,800,000,000,000 km)

In Half Life, opening a portal, controlling it somehow, is like opening a cookiejar, they still have cars with rubber weels, cheap buildings and crappy TV's but oh heck opening a portal to a diffirent universe with exactly the same laws of physics is a PIECE OF CAKE!

*finaly realises its just a game.*
 
sorry, but i completely refuse to believe any of that
 
Well in HL1 it was hardly a piece of cake. It was a massive complex and they appeared to have had accidents even prior to the cascade. The world after that point became a very strange place. On the one hand they gained access to limited amounts of off world tech and knowledge, including the Vortigaunts. Whilst at the same time they left the rails of normal scientific progress due to the constraints of the Combine.
That's how they ended up with a world where simple things like cars almost ceased to exist, whereas electricity was something outmoded by new technology.
 
sorry, but i completely refuse to believe any of that

visit wikipedia and see for yourself, i am studying astrophysics in holland by the way.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_black_hole (explaining the spaghettification effect, being ripped apart, being cooked :D)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity (A gravitational singularity ("sometimes spacetime singularity) is, approximately, a place where quantities which are used to measure the gravitational field become infinite.")

Formation of blackholes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_holes#Formation_and_evaporation
("As a direct result of the gravitational collapse of a star.")
 
The Aperture Science Enrichment Center and Combine architecture look very different; textures associated with Combine building materials are nowhere to be found in Portal.

Ahha but it would look different in the precise comparason, I don't think you're getting my time scale here. I'm saying that GLaDOS was developed before Black Mesa went boom, then Portal is around the time of Half Life 2 - ish (well the combine have invaded at any rate). Also if you think about it the energy spheres in use at Aperture Science is the same as the combines, the little Red eye (on the sentries) is remanisent of the combines Elite Infantry eye, and also the leg attachments on Chell is very similiar to that of stalkers legs.

Then why hasn't the Universial Union achieved basic local teleportation yet, when Aperture can tunnel through two locations in the same universe?

This is a bit more tricky, but I'm sure there is a reason.

Most likely coincidential, plus GLaDOS has no psychic powers.

Sure GLaDOS has no psychic powers, but at this point she is just a product of human scientists. My idea is she leaves the planet Earth after portal, during the combine invasions using the portal technology and due to the interference caused by the portal storms (possibly who knows) or because time works very differently in other universes she ends up in another universe, before the combine invasion of Earth. Here she could have undertook experiments on the local inhabitants, creatures perhaps like the Advisors and turned them into her bio-mechanical slaves.

It looks like you don't know your HL History. GLaDOS reveals that she's trying to keep an unknown force out. Either this force is the Combine or Xenians, and as we know from statements from Laidlaw, the Voritgaunts retreated to the Borderworld because of the Universial Union. Since Portal can only take place after the Resonance Cascade, it's impossible for GLaDOS to create the Combine at all.

This is explained in my time explanation above, to be fair it would seem abit unlikely that time scales are universal through all possible univereses, esspically since the laws of physics are different in each. So there is a bit of a time loop:

UU made > UU invade other species > GLaDOS made > Black Mesa Incident > 7 Hour War > Portal > GLaDOS Leaves Earth through a Portal > UU made

Obviously at the the Portal bit things branch as HL2 continues there too.
 
-Its been repeatedly noticed that portals architecture, style and general feel is some what remanisent of the combine.
Not by anyone with a shred of decent evidence it hasn't.
-The portal technology they use is distinctly different to that of blackmesa's, and actually is more representative of the combines (think the end of Half Life 2, that portal that opened there is very similiar to what Portal's portals look like).
Couldn't be more wrong. The Combine can't teleport locally at all. A large portion of HL2's story is based around this very fact.
-We find out at the end, in the charming song, that GLaDOS is still alive after the final fight, and something about her reminds me of the Advisors from the episodes. (The way she hangs from the ceiling, and generally looks like a metallic version).
Eh??
-We know something terrible must have happened at Aperature Science as Eli notes it near the end of Episode 2. The borealis is seen to have reappeared or some such as well but ignoring that for now.
Of no significance to your theory.
So here goes, after presenting the above evidence
(no evidence)
...what if after portal finished GLaDOS lives on, and uses the Portal technology some how (perhaps in accordance with the combines own portals?) She manages to slip her self and a large portion of her facility into another universe (Ala Xen, but obviously not Xen).

Once there she could then continue her experiments on other species without the hinderence of the moral inhibitor, and then starts produces biomechanical hybrids out of the creatures she experiments on. THUS GLaDOS PRODUCES THE COMBINE! GLaDOS doesn't know shes the combine of course (at the time of portal), and yes some time travel is involved here but I think the theory fits the evidence not bad. What you folks think?

NOTE: About GLaDOS looking like the advisors, perhaps GLaDOS eventually decides her mechanical brain isn't good enough and produces the biomechanoid that is the Advisor as a shell. Or perhaps they are created by her to control her vast armies?
Don't like it.
 
visit wikipedia and see for yourself, i am studying astrophysics in holland by the way.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_black_hole (explaining the spaghettification effect, being ripped apart, being cooked :D)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity (A gravitational singularity ("sometimes spacetime singularity) is, approximately, a place where quantities which are used to measure the gravitational field become infinite.")

Formation of blackholes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_holes#Formation_and_evaporation
("As a direct result of the gravitational collapse of a star.")

i was referring to the original theory
 
Not by anyone with a shred of decent evidence it hasn't.
Couldn't be more wrong. The Combine can't teleport locally at all. A large portion of HL2's story is based around this very fact.Eh??Of no significance to your theory.(no evidence)Don't like it.

I have recectified some points above, and ok the combine can't teleport locally but who knows what could have happened to the AS Portal tech and the present day combine over a large course of history? Perhaps the data was lost and the reason the combine are invading at all is to reacquire that Portal technology again!
 
It's also quite obviously borrowed for gameplay purposes. If a single one was used to power a forcefield in the same way that the Combine use them - fine. As it is - no.
 
...what is wrong with you people? No, seriously, what is wrong with you people? I already outlawed the crazy G-man theories, and now I have to read crazy theories about GLaDOS creating the Combine? Are you shitting me?

I can't even read through your entire post word-for-word. I have to skim over it, because I feel that if I read it in its entirety my brain's logic core will explode in a fiery hail of sparks, blood, and bits of grey matter.

I can't even bring myself to argue why this is so monumentally wrong. I realize I'm coming off as an asshole here but...at this point I don't even care. Good gracious. I might just have to put the kibosh on all theories arising from Episode Two and Portal. Clearly you people are abusing it.

Hamster, it is my fondest hope that you--as well as everyone else with crazy-ass theories--one day come to realize how erroneous you were and become productive, contributing members of this forum. In closing, I will suggest two ways to become better at coming up with theories:

1. Use the search button.
2. Check your evidence. And then check it again. And again. Again. More. Keep checking it. Put it all together and look at it collectively. And then try to filter all your 'evidence' down through a funnel they call Good Storytelling, and see if it makes sense. "Would this actually be smart and logical from a story perspective?"

Please don't try to draw connections that aren't there. GLaDOS has nothing to do with Xen. Xen has nothing to do with the Combine. The Combine have nothing to do with GLaDOS.
 
This theory is just far-fetched and unnecessarily complicated. You're making connections that simply isn't there. The only thing that would make it workable is time-travel and then it's just a desperate attempt to hold it together. While it's a creative theory it doesn't make any sense logically.
 
I've got to say, the theory seems so far from reason that I can't help but wonder if it's actually trolling.
 
I like your theory. Did you know that the same voice actor did the voice for both GLaDOS and the Combine Dispatch?

She also voiced those TF2 things like "THE ENEMY HAS TAKEN OUR INTELLIGENCE!"
 
You know, the health sounds from TF2 are the same as the Combine energy dispensers in HL2.

So yeah, since the Combine architecture is kind of bluish coloured, and the HWGuy kind of reminds me of a russian Advisor with a huge gun, it makes me wonder if maybe the Combine are in fact the BLU team, having escaped through a hole in a poorly clipped custom map to travel around and terrorise the universe...! Thoughts?
 
She also voiced those TF2 things like "THE ENEMY HAS TAKEN OUR INTELLIGENCE!"

Which proves two things, firstly there an undeniable link between TF2 and HL2 placing them within the same universe and that that sound file was probably intended to really go into the end scene and be played as the slug sucks on Eli's brain!
 
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