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You means the one that had greay and yellow armor? Yeah, those are going to be in Aftermath. I doubt there Elites, because they look more like the Combine Soldiers. For example, the Nove Prospect soldiers looked like normal ones except slightly different colors.
I doubt it is re inforcements from a nearby city, more like a group of Combine soldiers specifically created for a single purpose, or rather, donned in another uniform to deal with issues that the usual Combine soldier is incabable of doing to his best ability.
The Nova Prospekt guards, as Ultima has mentioned, wore different uniform. It was two different shades of blue, with the tag 'Nova Prospekt' on the back, and they had another eye colour.
Clearly this is due to what role they play within the Combine ranks. I suppose the real question here is, what role are the new soldiers playing? Most likely something to do with the wildlife invading the city.
The Nova Prospekt guards, as Ultima has mentioned, wore different uniform. It was two different shades of blue, with the tag 'Nova Prospekt' on the back, and they had another eye colour.
Clearly this is due to what role they play within the Combine ranks. I suppose the real question here is, what role are the new soldiers playing? Most likely something to do with the wildlife invading the city.
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Samon said:
agree with you here.
also, I remember an interview where has been mentioned that in Aftermath, you would get to encounter combinations of enemies as you have not in HL2.
Don't know if this is reasonable, but could it be that these Combine soldiers have somehow become independent from the Combine and are fighting only for their own survival or together with some unexpected allies?
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Doubtful. In the way that humans are drafted into the Combine ranks, I'm certain the processing that they undergo would rule out any form of uprising. Besides, it would further complicate the plot and the Combines presence on Earth.
I simply believe that the Combine we see here have been drafted in to deal with the situation that has arisen. Evacuating City 17 before it goes up in smoke.
I simply believe that the Combine we see here have been drafted in to deal with the situation that has arisen. Evacuating City 17 before it goes up in smoke.
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unex said:
Interesting note unex. But as the Combines soldiers are genetically modified to work only for the Overwatch I think they are incapable of revolting, making them self independent. The CPU are not in any way modified, so they could do this act, as they are ordinary human beings still capable of making their own decisions
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Sure this is a plausible argument, but viewed from a consequential viewpoint it does not make sense to me that the Combine have the time and nothing more important to do than produce a new outfit for their soldier dollies when the most important thing is limitation of damage and evacuating
I'm sure they didn't whip up a new batch of soldiers simply to evacuate the city due to Gordons actions. It is more likely that these soldiers have been on hand for years in the event that a meltdown does occur within the reactor.
Obviously Breen never thought the Citadel would attacked, let alone one man tear apart its main reactor. But despite this, you can't be too careful - its obvious that a meltdown could occur without it being done on purpose, and in this case they would need a group of soldiers on hand that would have the ability to evacuate the city did the need arise.
Obviously Breen never thought the Citadel would attacked, let alone one man tear apart its main reactor. But despite this, you can't be too careful - its obvious that a meltdown could occur without it being done on purpose, and in this case they would need a group of soldiers on hand that would have the ability to evacuate the city did the need arise.
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No because the coast area is native to the antlions, and why would the Combine bother positioning troops throughout the wastelands of Earth? What good would that do?
Sure there are indeed soldiers at the coast, but thats mainly to stem the flow of Resistance fighters, as they have outposts throughout there.
Since the aliens are invading City 17, it would probably be a call to defend against them. Which in turn is odd, since you, and they, are evacuating.
Yeah, I guess the underlying question is what role are the new soldiers playing? (as Samon mentioned). It makes sense that these new CP units' purpose would be attacking the wildlife invading the city, as that is a major part of the events in the exp. However, C17 is going up in smoke, so what would be the point?. Evacuating the other CP forces, maybe. Or just making sure no resistance makes it out alive. I just hope that there is an explanation for them in AM. Maybe it will become self-explanatory upon playing it.
My theory is that they were held in a type of stasis in the Citadel, until the meltdown triggered their release (maybe too outlandish). And also, remember that Breen spoke to the Combine Advisor, so the Combine were well aware of the possible outcome, and with the teleporter disabled, they knew what happened and sent reinforcements in. They might have been stationed out in the wastelands outside C17 to deal with the wildlife (so they wouldn't destroy the city walls/energy fields), that would explain how they got to the city so quickly.
My theory is that they were held in a type of stasis in the Citadel, until the meltdown triggered their release (maybe too outlandish). And also, remember that Breen spoke to the Combine Advisor, so the Combine were well aware of the possible outcome, and with the teleporter disabled, they knew what happened and sent reinforcements in. They might have been stationed out in the wastelands outside C17 to deal with the wildlife (so they wouldn't destroy the city walls/energy fields), that would explain how they got to the city so quickly.
How would they send reinforcements in with the teleporter and reactor in meltdown? Yes, I'm aware that other cities most probably do have Citadels but I severely doubt they have portals in them - or rather, I'm sure they were all connected to the tunneling entanglement system in the City 17 Citadel, and would therefore be unuseable.
Plus, they probably wouldn't get their in time.
I'm sure they are there to simply evacuate the city, incase the reactor did go into meltdown. The Citadel is massive, we saw very little of it. Who knows what it was housing.
Plus, they probably wouldn't get their in time.
I'm sure they are there to simply evacuate the city, incase the reactor did go into meltdown. The Citadel is massive, we saw very little of it. Who knows what it was housing.
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Yes, but evacuate who? I'm sure the Tanks and Striders can get out alright, seeing as the Striders have already been seen smashing through walls. Those CrabSynths from the last part of the Citadel looked like they could tear down City 17 walls if they started charging at them. And they obviously don't care about Citizens, seeing as all the citizens are really fighting now. But then theres the soldiers. CP units are probaly unimportant and we won't be seeing much of them in Aftermath, therefore evacuation for them is unlikely. But, then theres the regular soldiers...Hmmm...unless these yellow guys have skills so vital to getting out the regular ones shouldn't have much of a problem because of their training.
I also forgot to mention that theres one of these soldiers in the Half Life 2: Deathmath menu screen.
I also forgot to mention that theres one of these soldiers in the Half Life 2: Deathmath menu screen.
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Samon said:
Kind of like an extermination team? I like that idea...
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Sars said:
Regular Combine soldier
Combine Prison soldier
New Combine soldier
I like his spooky red-orange eyes.
I'm wondering where exactly they came from though. The Combine have Dropships, and by the time Gordon and Alyx make it out of the Citadel this new type of CP could be taking control of the streets. As for the argument that they don't have the time to reach the city: they could have been deployed as early as Gordon entering the Citadel. Remember, the city was mostly being taken over by the resistance by that time, and the need for reinforcements was urgent. Or they could have come from within the Citadel, who knows?.
Of course, their exact role will remain unknown until AM is released, I think. I also would like to see CP assassins as well, if not in AM then in future episodes (hopefully as Gordon).
Of course, their exact role will remain unknown until AM is released, I think. I also would like to see CP assassins as well, if not in AM then in future episodes (hopefully as Gordon).
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I could be mistaken, but I believe that the "brown" combines with the orange eyes are an earlier version of the combine - I remember seeing screenshots of them around. Also, they can be seen on the main image when you start HL2 Deathmatch, and they are in the "HL2: Substance" mod.
I think these new combine are commando units sent in by another city to hunt down Gordon. I imagine that the combine aren't to happy with the loss of City 17's Citadel, and if I were them I wouldn't just sit there with my fingers crossed hoping the exploding Citadel kills Gordon.
What I find funny though is the sheer amount of symbols on their uniforms. They have the normal combine symbol, the weird "skull" symbol that the elites have, and another symbol on their arms. It seems like Breen just likes to sit around drawing symbols for his troops.
P.S. Those Elites in Polaris' picture are pretty cool. I hope they're the new elites in aftermath
What I find funny though is the sheer amount of symbols on their uniforms. They have the normal combine symbol, the weird "skull" symbol that the elites have, and another symbol on their arms. It seems like Breen just likes to sit around drawing symbols for his troops.
P.S. Those Elites in Polaris' picture are pretty cool. I hope they're the new elites in aftermath
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Hopefully there'll be some new aliens, and the synths we saw at the end of HL2. Actually I'm almost positive we'll be fighting against those...guess we can't be certain till the game comes out tho...
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Yeah I want Bullsquids/Houndeyes too, but they didn't look that great in Substance.
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Yes, just did not LOOK cute. About a hundred Infected eyes as a face! *shudders*
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Rather than a Meltdown evacuation soldier that Samon suggests, I think they're soldiers specifically for the "other" aspect of the City 17 meltdown. A Combine Solider type specifically outfitted for combat with the wasteland creatures pouring into the city, like Riomhaire's "Antlion Troopers". The combine wouldn't be interested - as people have said - in evacuating anyone, but they would be interested in exterminating incoming wasteland creatures. Citadel meltdowns must be rare, but breakthroughs of alien creatures must be far more common, neccessitating the formation of a group of soldiers and all their different uniform. In screenshots, these soldiers are often seen fighting aliens after all...
Either that or they're a type of "friendly" combine. But that's speculation I simply don't want to believe.
Either that or they're a type of "friendly" combine. But that's speculation I simply don't want to believe.
