New Easter Egg Find: supports an interesting theory

[SirKillalot]

Okay...take a look at this shot, when Breen is running from Freeman:

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He says this:

"It's me you should be concerned about!

I can still deliver her but not without your help!

The portal destination is 'untenable' -- surely you could resey the relay elsewhere--

--There's no way I could survive in that environment!

A host body? You must be joking! I can't possibly...
Oh alright dammit!
If that's what it takes'

After a bit of 'noclip' I found a room off to the side that can ONLY be accessed by noclip and is a bit hidden... I'm sure you can find it.
Inside is something that looks like a larva and is a bit like what you encounter at the end of HL1, except much, much smaller. It also looks like what Breen was talking to. There are various screens around it and it is bound by metal cords and communications equipment:

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This brings about an interesting theory:

Breen seems to be arguing with this thing, showing that he's not entirely in control. Yet whatever this is, it is definitely under Combine control.

The Gman also seems to have run of the place -- how else does he get around so quickly?

The Gman also tells Gordon that freeman's performed his job well -- was the 'job' to get rid of Breen? This would make sense: Breen seemed to be going out on a limb...acting like a king.

Also, the Gman obviously programmed Dog to help Freeman get into the Citadel-- Dog flew away on the dropship, then he magically reappeared to let Gordon into the Citadel.

I have tried to put 2 and 2 together...here's what I've come up with:

The Gman seems to be pretty close to the Combine--close as in 'friends'. Breen seems to be a bit of a miscreant. The Gman sent Freeman to take out Breen and his 'kingdom'. Breen seems like a bit of a rowdy 'pawn' -- in a multiple-universe empire (Breen said that's what it was), a single city on a single planet is pretty puny. So either there's some sort of power struggle within the Combine and Breen was caught up int it, or maybe the Combine just got fed up with him --- or something else entirely.

What do you think?

Do your thing -- use this new info to come up with whole new ideas...or just elaborate on this one. A couple thousand minds are better than One!


-- Your friendly tKdPainKiller

 

[SirKillalot]

sorry...ill post again and get the images

 

[capteeni]

Okay...take a look at this shot, when Breen is running from Freeman:

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He says this:

"It's me you should be concerned about!

I can still deliver her but not without your help!

The portal destination is 'untenable' -- surely you could resey the relay elsewhere--

--There's no way I could survive in that environment!

A host body? You must be joking! I can't possibly...
Oh alright dammit!
If that's what it takes'

After a bit of 'noclip' I found a room off to the side that can ONLY be accessed by noclip and is a bit hidden... I'm sure you can find it.
Inside is something that looks like a larva and is a bit like what you encounter at the end of HL1, except much, much smaller. It also looks like what Breen was talking to. There are various screens around it and it is bound by metal cords and communications equipment:

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This brings about an interesting theory:

Breen seems to be arguing with this thing, showing that he's not entirely in control. Yet whatever this is, it is definitely under Combine control.

The Gman also seems to have run of the place -- how else does he get around so quickly?

The Gman also tells Gordon that freeman's performed his job well -- was the 'job' to get rid of Breen? This would make sense: Breen seemed to be going out on a limb...acting like a king.

Also, the Gman obviously programmed Dog to help Freeman get into the Citadel-- Dog flew away on the dropship, then he magically reappeared to let Gordon into the Citadel.

I have tried to put 2 and 2 together...here's what I've come up with:

The Gman seems to be pretty close to the Combine--close as in 'friends'. Breen seems to be a bit of a miscreant. The Gman sent Freeman to take out Breen and his 'kingdom'. Breen seems like a bit of a rowdy 'pawn' -- in a multiple-universe empire (Breen said that's what it was), a single city on a single planet is pretty puny. So either there's some sort of power struggle within the Combine and Breen was caught up int it, or maybe the Combine just got fed up with him --- or something else entirely.

What do you think?

Do your thing -- use this new info to come up with whole new ideas...or just elaborate on this one. A couple thousand minds are better than One!


-- Your friendly tKdPainKiller

1. your larva is a combine advisor,
2.gman is quickly there, because he is mysterious man who use somekind of time teleportation stuff and no idea if he is close friend of combine
3.dog isnt programmed by gman, its helping because it know you need to go there, because you ask it.
4. Dr. Breen is cruel man and want power
5. gman want gordon to take citadel and not dr. breen
6. in 7 hours war breen declarewd peace as the combine's victory if (as he do) will be an administrator (political stuff)
7. welcome to the forums
8. half of your theories could be truth and some of these stuff are threaded many times, you think i could see those pictures? in your C drive, right or youre joking... :O

 

[Sufferin-rebel]

Hmm.. This has been discussed in other threads.. At least i think it has, The Combine Advisor is the only Real Combine we will see in HL2.. All we do know about the REAL combine is they are heavy dependent on Machines.. and i also think that the Real combine talk telepathically.. Notice the advisor doesnt talk while Breen is talkin..

 

[Asknoone]

Its not an easter egg. You can over hear this conversation when in the lift with Alyx when you are on your way to stop Breen.

Right first off its a combine advisor Breen is talking to. That is the real face of the combine, its an actual combine and it communicates with Breen with its psychic powers. Breen was asking to be teleported off earth, the resistace had wrestled control of the city from combine hands and Gordon was on a rampage in the citadel. Breen had Eli's portal tech and wanted to get the hell out there. Unfortauntley the world he was going to was slightly not to breens appeal, and would certainly kill any human. Whatever the outcome, it came to an agreement.

Breen was never in control. He was merley a figurehead for the combine. When the combine invaded the planet, Breen brought about a surrender and was made interim administrator of earth. He is on the combines side and at no point was he acting like a king (at least not too much), he was simply using the powers given him to quell people's fears of the alien invasion and so on.

We dont know who gman is, but one thing we know for sure is he is *not* friends with the combine, he placed Gordon on earth to cause mayhem for them and halt thier operations on the planet. I believe his goal was for Gordon to destroy the reactor to cut off the combines connection with earth (it powers thier tunneling entanglement system, the only way they can get to earth) as without, they cant get through. And you had to stop breen handing over eli's portal tech to them.

And no, DOG wasnt programmed by gman. He was wanting to get into the citadel because Alyx was there, and he knew gordon would get her out.

 

[capteeni]

Its not an easter egg. You can over hear this conversation when in the lift with Alyx when you are on your way to stop Breen.

Right first off its a combine advisor Breen is talking to. That is the real face of the combine, its an actual combine and it communicates with Breen with its psychic powers. Breen was asking to be teleported off earth, the resistace had wrestled control of the city from combine hands and Gordon was on a rampage in the citadel. Breen had Eli's portal tech and wanted to get the hell out there. Unfortauntley the world he was going to was slightly not to breens appeal, and would certainly kill any human. Whatever the outcome, it came to an agreement.

Breen was never in control. He was merley a figurehead for the combine. When the combine invaded the planet, Breen brought about a surrender and was made interim administrator of earth. He is on the combines side and at no point was he acting like a king (at least not too much), he was simply using the powers given him to quell people's fears of the alien invasion and so on.

We dont know who gman is, but one thing we know for sure is he is *not* friends with the combine, he placed Gordon on earth to cause mayhem for them and halt thier operations on the planet. I believe his goal was for Gordon to destroy the reactor to cut off the combines connection with earth (it powers thier tunneling entanglement system, the only way they can get to earth) as without, they cant get through. And you had to stop breen handing over eli's portal tech to them.

And no, DOG wasnt programmed by gman. He was wanting to get into the citadel because Alyx was there, and he knew gordon would get her out.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

 

[SirKillalot]

I didn't mean that the conversation was an easter egg...i meant that that room was... if you fly up through the room where breen drops the gravity gun and go to the right, u'll see a 'box'. inside is the advisor

 

[SirKillalot]

lol im sorry ill try to post the pics...i dont know how to take them from my c drive

 

[SirKillalot]

Okay here are the images

Here is Breen talking to the advisor (or whatever it is):

Here is the advisor:

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[SirKillalot]

 

[SirKillalot]

 

[Iced_Eagle]

I didn't mean that the conversation was an easter egg...i meant that that room was... if you fly up through the room where breen drops the gravity gun and go to the right, u'll see a 'box'. inside is the advisor

No, that's not an easter egg. That's how VALVe does those scenes. Instead of running a video off of the monitors, which could get out of synch-easily, VALVe set up choreography, and it also makes it much more realistic

Every time there is a monitor showing another character or such, there is always that little room.

No easter egg here.

 

[Marx! II]

That's actually a good idea.
And on a semi-related note, is there an npc for the Breen-o-tron you see in the train station and the square?

 

[MarcoPollo]

OLD!!!! but Ive never seen anyone clip into the slug's box...

 

[Asknoone]

You can do it with every screen - Breen monitors and so on. Its rather intertaining noclipping into the rooms that contain breen on the monitors, crossbowing him to the wall and floating back out to the monitor to see Breen impaled

 

[Jintor]

A. Yes.

B) I'm more intrested in the fact that Breen goes 'I can still deliver her but not without your help!' If that's what he says. I don't remember that bit.

 

[Cons Himself]

i can still deliver earth, not her

 

[Asknoone]

Yes, he says he can still deliver Earth.

 

[Dalamari]

ditto on the earth thing, I have heard him talk with the advisor 5 times now

 

[Jintor]

Damn.

Well, at least we know that the combine want -earth-. What for, I wonder. Besides the natural resources. They want those,

 

[Asknoone]

Damn.

Well, at least we know that the combine want -earth-. What for, I wonder. Besides the natural resources. They want those,

Well we knew they wanted earth, they've been siezing and invading planets all over the universe

They want its resources and populace.

 

[pomegranate]

I don't think they want people (populace) - they seem to be doing their best to exterminate humanity - stopping reproduction, for example.

 

[Asknoone]

I don't think they want people (populace) - they seem to be doing their best to exterminate humanity - stopping reproduction, for example.

They placed the suppression field on because they don't want humanity to continue breeding so they don't get overwhelmed and because its no longer nesesary. Ultimatley pretty much every human on the planet is going to be augmented with combine technology and taken away from the planet. With combine technology you become immortal, you don't die from old age/diseases and so on. You can still be killed of course.

But once they've been taken away from the planet to be slaves and be part of the combine war machine, what use would them breeding be? There wouldnt because they would grow in numbers.

If they didn't care about the populace, everyone would be killed.

 

[Laivasse]

If they didn't care about the populace, everyone would be killed.

What Breen says to the Overwatch in Nova Prospekt suggeststhat there is a possibility of humanity's extermination, plus even the extermination of the transhuman forces - "the alternative, if you can call it that, is extermination! along with all the lesser branches of the species..."

This says to me that not *everyone* on earth will share in the Combine's brave new world. That maybe they only need a certain amount of human Overwatch and then they can reproduce their own, maybe, and that your average boiler suited citizen is due for the bonfire.

That's the original plan, anyway, it seems. If they're even considering scrapping the troops they've created so far, then it means that Freeman's arrival has even made the Combine dubious about the whole Breen/humans project thing, due to general fishiness. Which also ties in with Breen's ranting at the end about Freeman having doomed mankind.

 

[Edcrab]

Exactly- I get the impression that Earth is on a trail-period, of a sort, to see whether Breen can get the planet working to an acceptable level to suit the Combine's specifications- and then we'd really be a part of 'em.

That probably includes resource management as well as the actions of the law enforcement and the possible campaign to perfect the species and/or our technology.

 

[Asknoone]

What Breen says to the Overwatch in Nova Prospekt suggeststhat there is a possibility of humanity's extermination, plus even the extermination of the transhuman forces - "the alternative, if you can call it that, is extermination! along with all the lesser branches of the species..."

This says to me that not *everyone* on earth will share in the Combine's brave new world. That maybe they only need a certain amount of human Overwatch and then they can reproduce their own, maybe, and that your average boiler suited citizen is due for the bonfire.

That's the original plan, anyway, it seems. If they're even considering scrapping the troops they've created so far, then it means that Freeman's arrival has even made the Combine dubious about the whole Breen/humans project thing, due to general fishiness. Which also ties in with Breen's ranting at the end about Freeman having doomed mankind.

He actually says: "The alternative is, if you can call it that is total extinction!"

Same thing i guess

However I think when he says un worthy branches of the species, he is talking abouthow horrific it would be to become a stalker like everyone is mosty likley to become.

I think the combine are mostly interested in Eli's portal tech anyways.

 

[Marx! II]

Laivasse's idea hooks in with my own, and consider, if Breen can throw the e word at the transhuman forces, who are more or less the best the combine can do with the human form, what for average Joe McFreewill? The stalkers? Perhaps ol' G-man is trying to humanity in.