Right wing "tea Party" tax protests are getting a little out of hand

[Raziaar]

From the tea party protest in Carrollton, Texas

Raziaar, don't you live in Carrollton??

Holy shit, I didn't know there were any protests here. lol. I was inside as I always am.

 

[<RJMC>]

I dont get many of this stuff

"stop big spending" how many times has bush invested in the iraq war and afganistan?

"restore regulation" wasnt bush the one that eliminated a kind of regulations that lead to this whole crisis

also want they say "taxpayer money" they mean the money that its given tot he banks and companyes near bankrupt to help them? wasnt bush the one that started whit that?

 

[Raziaar]

I dont get many of this stuff

"stop big spending" how many times has bush invested in the iraq war and afganistan?

"restore regulation" wasnt bush the one that eliminated a kind of regulations that lead to this whole crisis

also want they say "taxpayer money" they mean the money that its given tot he banks and companyes near bankrupt to help them? wasnt bush the one that started whit that?

Yes, Bush is responsible for our current wars and the gross spending we are doing in them. Investing in our military is a wise thing, but to this level and to this end, it is foolish indeed and has evaporated many of our funds.

His Administration was also a crucial spearhead in promoting an agenda of deregulation, you are correct.

And yes, Bush Administration was the one who first started pushing for bailouts of these companies. Obama has taken it up as well.

 

[<RJMC>]

Yes, Bush is responsible for our current wars and the gross spending we are doing in them. Investing in our military is a wise thing, but to this level and to this end, it is foolish indeed and has evaporated many of our funds.

His Administration was also a crucial spearhead in promoting an agenda of deregulation, you are correct.

And yes, Bush Administration was the one who first started pushing for bailouts of these companies. Obama has taken it up as well.

that means these people dont know jack crap

 

[Raziaar]

that means these people dont know jack crap

They're being willfully ignorant.

And they're making a HUGE ****ing deal about this right wing extremism thing from the DHS. First off, they're willfully identifying themselves as extremists to contour to the report, even though the report wasn't saying that all of those people who had those traits are extremist, and then they ignore the fact that there was also a Left Wing extremism report. And that the BUSH ADMINISTRATION was the one that ordered the reports, not the Obama administration.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Nazism (National Socialism) is a form of socialism. Socialism is a blanket term that covers all economically collectivist ideaologies. Socialism is economically leftist, Nationalism is socially right wing. It's possible to be left wing economically and right wing socially.

This is true, but Nationalism and Socialism combined is Nazism, correct? They are stating that socialism and Nazism are the same thing, which is obviously wrong.

 

[Emporius]

Aren't these the same people that were harassing the government to do something at the beginning of the Market fall/crash?


Also what is America's issue with anything remotely socialist?

 

[Ennui]

Tea parties were hilarious, don't pay any attention to them, they're all mindless retards following Fox News blindly. Hilarious shit though. A wee bit painful to watch at times but whatever. It's funny because everyone in our country that doesn't watch Fox has almost no idea that they happened.

this guy is a goon:

 

[Saturos]

There was some tea party movement in my town recently during the local township festival they have annually around here. They're saying our government's over-spending today will be our children's burden tomorrow.

I can agree to that, but why wasn't anyone protesting during the Bush administration's over-spending? Both administrations are/were spending entirely too much tbh, first the Bush admin's frivolous over-sea campaignes (the war on Iraq lasted way too long) and now Obama's frivolous bailouts and handouts. (let em' collapse for their irresponsibility. I won't lose any sleep.)

BTW, I wasn't aware it was actually a protest. Everyone seemed pretty calm about it around here. "Politely" disagreeing with the Obama administration's spending I suppose.

Bottom line, the more the government spends on it's own people and everyone else, the more control they have over it's people and foreign beneficiaries and ultimately, the more control they'll have over ME! So right now, I don't support either of America's two major parties. I'm a libertarian.

 

[Warped]

theres a War on everything nowadays. best thing you can do is adapt or figure out how to be happy. or create a 100ft tall robot that can withstand a 100MT nuclear blast

 

[gFrohman]

or create a 100ft tall robot that can withstand a 100MT nuclear blast

That would be the best way for the government to spend its money - I wouldn't be upset.

 

[Sulkdodds]

theres a War on everything nowadays. best thing you can do is adapt or figure out how to be happy. or create a 100ft tall robot that can withstand a 100MT nuclear blast

But then someone would invent a 101 MT bomb. And the new robot would have to be 102 feet tall. You see where this is going.

 

[gFrohman]

Just make a robot 10000000000000000000000ft tall. It'll be years till someone makes a bomb that powerful.

 

[City14]

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this guy is a goon:

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hahahhahah i laughed so hard at that

 

[Qonfused]

this guy is a goon:

I lol'd.

 

[Planetary]

Someone 'infiltrated' a protest and took pictures:
http://www.ginandtacos.com/2009/04/15/ed-goes-undercover-teabaggin/

Long story short, we have a new "Moran Guy" to post about.

 

[staticprimer]

"Descent the highest form of patriotic" hahaha

 

[CptStern]

You know exactly what I meant, Stern.

yes I do. in fact I'll just come out and say what you didnt have the stones to say:

"black people vioted for Obama because he's black"

ya well I'm sure there's a shit load of people who didnt vote for obama because he's black



who did you vote for Some_god?

 

[Saturos]

yes I do. in fact I'll just come out and say what you didnt have the stones to say:

"black people vioted for Obama because he's black"

ya well I'm sure there's a shit load of people who didnt vote for obama because he's black



who did you vote for Some_god?

Does anyone ever read MAD? There was a satirical page about the demographic percentage outcomes for the election and under those who voted against Obama 18% voted against him not because Obama himself is black, but because the large percentage of people who voted for him just because he's black. LOL Of course it's just satire.

 

[Ridge]

I dont get many of this stuff

"stop big spending" how many times has bush invested in the iraq war and afganistan?

Bush was a shitty President, no doubt. However, in 8 years of spending, he did not come close to what Obama spent his first 2 months in office by making the 2nd round of bailouts

"restore regulation" wasnt bush the one that eliminated a kind of regulations that lead to this whole crisis

Actually, the Clinton administration was the one who forced through bills that required banks like Fannie May and Freddie Mac to make loans to people who could barely balance a jar full of pennies, let alone the tens of thousands of dollars they were given to buy homes they never should have owned.

also want they say "taxpayer money" they mean the money that its given tot he banks and companyes near bankrupt to help them? wasnt bush the one that started whit that?

Yes, Bush was a blithering idiot and did in fact sign off on the first bailout. It was a very bad precedent, and certainly not one that should have been available for Obama to use as reasoning to pass the 7 trillion dollar money burning escapade that has further sent the global economy into the toilet.

Look how many millions we gave GM so they could survive. And now they will be filing for bankruptcy next month. Thank god we gave them all that dough to spend on executive retreats and lawnmowers for the UAW private country club...

I for one welcome an armed uprising against the new breed of out of touch fat cats now in charge of the United States.

 

[Ridge]

Tea parties were hilarious, don't pay any attention to them, they're all mindless retards following Fox News blindly. Hilarious shit though. A wee bit painful to watch at times but whatever. It's funny because everyone in our country that doesn't watch Fox has almost no idea that they happened.

this guy is a goon:

It is impossible to ignore them. Denver, the liberal-controlled city that hosted the Democratic National Convention, had over 5,000 people protesting, myself included. And Denver was only 1 of 750+ protests going on nationwide.

Notice that most of the protests were taking place in very liberal states, such as California, New York and the rest of the east coast.

 

[Ridge]

yes I do. in fact I'll just come out and say what you didnt have the stones to say:

"black people vioted for Obama because he's black"

ya well I'm sure there's a shit load of people who didnt vote for obama because he's black



who did you vote for Some_god?

I wrote in Sarah Palin:naughty:

 

[Eejit]

Bush was a shitty President, no doubt. However, in 8 years of spending, he did not come close to what Obama spent his first 2 months in office by making the 2nd round of bailouts

Er, the Iraq War?

 

[Sparta]

I for one welcome an armed uprising against the new breed of out of touch fat cats now in charge of the United States.

I agree, they are out of touch fat-cats.

Also, I own the Moon, created gravity as well as KFC's 'Famous Bowls'. You're welcome.

If you seriously believe any of the non-sense (outside of the bailout stuff) you've been indoctrinated very well by the neo-conservative moment. This goes for everyone who went to one of these tea-parties. These people don't understand how government works, nor do they understand that if the GOP were still in power, they would more than likely be doing the exact same thing regarding the second round of the bailouts.

These people rally to calls for an armed revolution against so-called 'fat-cats' who plan to lower your taxes, while being led by the very people who have manipulated the political climate for their own financial benefit. Rather than applying any common sense to their arguments, they apply propaganda and scream that Obama is going to turn the country into a Socialist, therefore Fascist (which is entirely wrong) country, when the closest the US ever came to fascism was under the Bush administration.

All the criticism against the bailout is completely valid. I can understand how people would be frustrated with how much money is spent on saving the institutions that got them into trouble in the first place. Criticise that all you want, but you can't place the blame entirely on Clinton and Obama when for the majority of his term, Bush was doing the best he could to help deregulate the system so his power base could earn more money while receiving lower taxes. I'm pretty sure everyone is to blame for the state the economy is in, and will be in over the next few years. Why morons like Rush Limbaugh hope that Obama fails is beyond any rational thought, since its their country going down the tubes for the sake of their moronic and backwards ideology.

 

[Jintor]

What's with America and calling for armed revolutions? You're past that stage in your goddamn history. Stop trying to bring it back.

 

[Sparta]

Apparently raising the tax on the wealthy to it was under Clinton, and lowering the tax on the poor, is fascist and one step away from rounding up the middle class to shovel into ovens. Also, its funny that America was the only country to have civil war over the right to enslave and didn't just try to buy out the slave out traders like every other country on the planet. Silly Americans.

 

[Ridge]

I agree, they are out of touch fat-cats.

Also, I own the Moon, created gravity as well as KFC's 'Famous Bowls'. You're welcome.

If you seriously believe any of the non-sense (outside of the bailout stuff) you've been indoctrinated very well by the neo-conservative moment. This goes for everyone who went to one of these tea-parties. These people don't understand how government works, nor do they understand that if the GOP were still in power, they would more than likely be doing the exact same thing regarding the second round of the bailouts.

Damn right we would. This is not about political parties. This is about the government spending beyond its means while simultaneously telling us we have to tighten our belts...

Liberals have long been the party that performs mass protests like we saw last week. They are just in shock that the right can protest, too, and not have it lead down the road to riots and burning buildings and overturned cars.

These people rally to calls for an armed revolution against so-called 'fat-cats' who plan to lower your taxes, while being led by the very people who have manipulated the political climate for their own financial benefit. Rather than applying any common sense to their arguments, they apply propaganda and scream that Obama is going to turn the country into a Socialist, therefore Fascist (which is entirely wrong) country, when the closest the US ever came to fascism was under the Bush administration.

The Democrats have always been the party that raised taxes and spent more. Bush was a very liberal Republican, as was John McCain. In my personal opinion, the election last year was a lose-lose situation for conservatives. Bush might've signed the Patriot Act, which removed a lot of our freedoms. But he still didnt micro-manage and squelch any dissent in the press pool, nor did his congress introduce any bills that would give him the power to shut down mass media if the President felt the need arise.

All the criticism against the bailout is completely valid. I can understand how people would be frustrated with how much money is spent on saving the institutions that got them into trouble in the first place. Criticise that all you want, but you can't place the blame entirely on Clinton and Obama when for the majority of his term, Bush was doing the best he could to help deregulate the system so his power base could earn more money while receiving lower taxes. I'm pretty sure everyone is to blame for the state the economy is in, and will be in over the next few years. Why morons like Rush Limbaugh hope that Obama fails is beyond any rational thought, since its their country going down the tubes for the sake of their moronic and backwards ideology.

You are right. This economic disaster is a bipartisan affair. Problem is everybody is too busy pointing fingers to put their heads together and work out a rational solution that doesnt involve bankrupting the nation.

I personally can't stand Rush Limbaugh. He is an old school Republican. The Republicans need to adapt and achieve some common ground with the new generation of constituents.

Adapt or die.

 

[CptStern]

Damn right we would. This is not about political parties. This is about the government spending beyond its means while simultaneously telling us we have to tighten our belts...

yet not a single one of you batted an eyelash when Bush raped the US treasury to wtf pawn Iraq without a single concrete bit of justification. you people are laughably hypocritical and for the most part hopelessly retarded

Liberals have long been the party that performs mass protests like we saw last week. They are just in shock that the right can protest, too, and not have it lead down the road to riots and burning buildings and overturned cars.

look I dont want to insult you personally but you're making it really difficult to do so. the right got off their collective asses for the FIRST TIME EVER, and all of the sudden it's comparable to decades of activism by those on the left of center? I dont understand how you can look at yourself in the mirror and not see a giant hypocrite completely deluded beyond the point of no return. really, the idea that what you're doing is noble is just laughable, you dont give a shit when your country rapes and kills another for profit but goddam it you'll be up in arms when the black guy in charge decides to up taxes for the rich. this is why the right is so often ridiculed; it's as if you're all living in this other world where none of the real world's rules apply and it's all bunnies, confederate flags, handguns and unwanted kids who probably should have been aborted

partisan politics is killing your country

 

[Ridge]

look I dont want to insult you personally but you're making it really difficult to do so. the right got off their collective asses for the FIRST TIME EVER, and all of the sudden it's comparable to decades of activism by those on the left of center? I dont understand how you can look at yourself in the mirror and not see a giant hypocrite completely deluded beyond the point of no return. really, the idea that what you're doing is noble is just laughable, you dont give a shit when your country rapes and kills another for profit but goddam it you'll be up in arms when the black guy in charge decides to up taxes for the rich. this is why the right is so often ridiculed; it's as if you're all living in this other world where none of the real world's rules apply and it's all bunnies, confederate flags, handguns and unwanted kids who probably should have been aborted

partisan politics is killing your country

We don't believe we are noble for disagreeing with the government. We believe we are doing what is necessary so that the people in Congress see what we really want and would hopefully consider their jobs and realize they need to do a better job of doing what their voters think is right.

Since Vietnam, when has another country been raped? I disagreed with the Iraq war the whole way through, but we've dumped tons of money into that country and lots of our soldiers have been killed doing so, and we haven't got jack shit in return.

Obama might be raising taxes on the rich, but what has us up in arms is the people who live off Welfare and food stamps and whatnot, cruising around in new Escalades when they arent at home watching satellite TV on their plasma TVs, whom Obama is giving more money to.

Really, do you believe $250,000 a year income is rich?? How about when he slipped and said $200,000? Or when Biden says $150,000.

Fact is, somebody will always be "rich" until nobody has any money left. It is EXACTLY what happened to Russia after the revolution...and what happened? The whole country went completely, utterly, bankrupt. Nobody had two rubles to rub together.

I agree that these two major parties are ruining the country. Seems to me the answer is to have MORE parties. So people can make a real choice and not have the same politician wearing two different colored ties running against each other for POTUS...

 

[CptStern]

We don't believe we are noble for disagreeing with the government. We believe we are doing what is necessary so that the people in Congress see what we really want and would hopefully consider their jobs and realize they need to do a better job of doing what their voters think is right.

for the first time ever (not including anything to do with religion or guns) conservatives mobalize against the government. wiretapping, the use of torture, indefinate incarciration without charges, domestic spying, lie after lie after lie, the invasion of a sovereign state, the pillaging of natural resources etc etc in the last 8 years and all you people can muster is abject silence? there wasnt a SINGLE conservative voice clamouring aobut the injust plans to invade iraq prior to the war. eally the only issues that ever seem to matter are guns religion and taxes. your governemnt could pretty mcuh do what it wants and 50% + of the population is ok with ...so long as it's not about guns, religion or taxes. hypocrites the entire lot of you

Since Vietnam, when has another country been raped?

are you ****ing kidding me? does your knowlege of US history end with vietnam and begin with the second invasion of iraq? you didnt just rape iraq in 2003 and onward. you started in 1991 and continued to put the screws to the populace for the 15+ years ..and will continue to do so for decades to come


also, countries you've raped snce vietnam:

Uruguay - cia trains government in use of torture, thousands of civilians disappear and are tortured or murdered
Haiti - installing dictators Papa Doc Duvalier and his son, Haiti is still under their oppressive thumbs
Cuba - economic rape
Dominican Republic - assasination of democratically elected leader, cia supports right wing dictator who later kills 10's of thousands
Bolivia - cia helps overthrow government and props up right wing dictator . thousands of civilians are tortured and murdered
Chile - overthrows elected government, puts in right wing despot Augusto Pinochet
Angola - cia funds civil war, supports murderous regime that led to deaths of hundreds of thousands of angolan civlians

and that's just the 70's

I disagreed with the Iraq war the whole way through, but we've dumped tons of money into that country and lots of our soldiers have been killed doing so, and we haven't got jack shit in return.

where were you during the lead up the war? where were you during the invasion and occupation of iraq? I'll tell you where; right in the middle of the rest of the other conservatives who believed what they were doing was right. how else do you explain that 78% of americans supported the invasion of iraq? I doubt there were many "liberals" in that number. ..most likely the number of conservatives who supoorted the invasion of iraq was something approaching 100%

Obama might be raising taxes on the rich, but what has us up in arms is the people who live off Welfare and food stamps and whatnot, cruising around in new Escalades when they arent at home watching satellite TV on their plasma TVs, whom Obama is giving more money to.

people on food stamps and welfare drive around in Escalades? the top of the line escalade retails for $78,000. why would they need food stamps if they can afford a $78,000 car? you're obviously believeing the crap other people force feed you because that's just idiotic

Really, do you believe $250,000 a year income is rich??

unless you are a professional or get lucky, you will NEVER make this amount. so yes compared to me and you, they are rich. but really what constitutes rich? the ability to purchase a small island or the ability to pay the Rolling Stones to play at your kid's bar-mitvah? anything over middle class wages = upper class, upper class (today) is defined as "wealthy" ..or else they wouldnt be upper class

In the United States the upper class, also referred to simply as the rich

How about when he slipped and said $200,000? Or when Biden says $150,000.

omg set them on fire they're traitors to america ...how about when Donald Rumsfeld said this about WMD in iraq:

"We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad."

or when George Bush said this:

"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons"

where was your outrage then? their lies led to the deaths of thousands of americans and the right doesnt seem to give to shits. it takes a black man to galvanize the right into actually doing something but hell if you're going to do something about REAL issues like torture or murdering 10's of thousands of people. somehow the rich being taxed is a much much more important issue

Fact is, somebody will always be "rich" until nobody has any money left. It is EXACTLY what happened to Russia after the revolution...and what happened? The whole country went completely, utterly, bankrupt. Nobody had two rubles to rub together.

slippery slope. you're suggesting that since obama is taxing the rich everyone will eventually be poor. this is flawed reasoning

I agree that these two major parties are ruining the country. Seems to me the answer is to have MORE parties. So people can make a real choice and not have the same politician wearing two different colored ties running against each other for POTUS...

more parties? you only have one political party: conservative (our conservative party is more liberal than the democrats) ..there is NO liberal party in the US they're essentially one party with two factions but they essentially agree on most issues except a few key ones. also the problem isnt exclusively the party system but rather the people who vote. this teaparty idiocy stands as a perfect example as how the voter is completely delusional in their support of their party. sure politicians push out misinformation but it's the public that sucks it up like a sponge without bothering to check it's validity is the cancer that is killing your country. politics have reverted to alarmist talking points and demonizing the other party coldly and calculatingly regardless if there's truth in what they say. Personally if I were american the tea party protests would be a source of embarrassment and I'd have hung my head in shame that so many of my fellow americans are obviously stupid

 

[Vigilante]

ridge just got raep'd

 

[Ridge]

for the first time ever (not including anything to do with religion or guns) conservatives mobalize against the government. wiretapping, the use of torture, indefinate incarciration without charges, domestic spying, lie after lie after lie, the invasion of a sovereign state, the pillaging of natural resources etc etc in the last 8 years and all you people can muster is abject silence? there wasnt a SINGLE conservative voice clamouring aobut the injust plans to invade iraq prior to the war. eally the only issues that ever seem to matter are guns religion and taxes. your governemnt could pretty mcuh do what it wants and 50% + of the population is ok with ...so long as it's not about guns, religion or taxes. hypocrites the entire lot of you

If only 50% + of Americans give a damn about guns, religion, or taxes, then why the hell are people who voted for Obama and other people who make up the left buying up guns and ammo like the world will end tomorrow? Since the election, I've bought one firearm, and that is a pistol to defend myself with while I work in an area full of lower class people who DO drive around in luxury cars with lots of bling on them as they head on down to the pawn shop to hawk some of their crap so they can buy some fast food.

are you ****ing kidding me? does your knowlege of US history end with vietnam and begin with the second invasion of iraq? you didnt just rape iraq in 2003 and onward. you started in 1991 and continued to put the screws to the populace for the 15+ years ..and will continue to do so for decades to come

For all of our trouble in Iraq, what has the US gotten besides other nations letting their people flow across the border to blow up markets and schools in Baghdad?

where were you during the lead up the war? where were you during the invasion and occupation of iraq? I'll tell you where; right in the middle of the rest of the other conservatives who believed what they were doing was right. how else do you explain that 78% of americans supported the invasion of iraq? I doubt there were many "liberals" in that number. ..most likely the number of conservatives who supoorted the invasion of iraq was something approaching 100%

Where was I? I'll tell you where I was. I was a liberal high school student argueing with my conservative teacher in my Junior year politics class about how the war was stupid as hell and we should have elected Al Gore. That is where I was.

unless you are a professional or get lucky, you will NEVER make this amount. so yes compared to me and you, they are rich. but really what constitutes rich? the ability to purchase a small island or the ability to pay the Rolling Stones to play at your kid's bar-mitvah? anything over middle class wages = upper class, upper class (today) is defined as "wealthy" ..or else they wouldnt be upper class

What is happening is the government is punishing people for being successful. Why work hard and make technological advances in your field when all you will get for it is taxed to death so that your money can be given to the people who didnt feel like doing anything today?

where was your outrage then? their lies led to the deaths of thousands of americans and the right doesnt seem to give to shits. it takes a black man to galvanize the right into actually doing something but hell if you're going to do something about REAL issues like torture or murdering 10's of thousands of people. somehow the rich being taxed is a much much more important issue

Again, I was a liberal in high school. Thankfully I went to college and saw the light and realized all the evils that liberalism enbodies...

slippery slope. you're suggesting that since obama is taxing the rich everyone will eventually be poor. this is flawed reasoning

How is that flawed reasoning. Until everybody makes the same wages and spends the same on goods, there WILL be rich and poor. And as long as there is rich and poor, there will be jealousy and contempt between those classes and more laws will be made so that things are "fair."

more parties? you only have one political party: conservative (our conservative party is more liberal than the democrats) ..there is NO liberal party in the US they're essentially one party with two factions but they essentially agree on most issues except a few key ones. also the problem isnt exclusively the party system but rather the people who vote. this teaparty idiocy stands as a perfect example as how the voter is completely delusional in their support of their party. sure politicians push out misinformation but it's the public that sucks it up like a sponge without bothering to check it's validity is the cancer that is killing your country. politics have reverted to alarmist talking points and demonizing the other party coldly and calculatingly regardless if there's truth in what they say. Personally if I were american the tea party protests would be a source of embarrassment and I'd have hung my head in shame that so many of my fellow americans are obviously stupid

I agree. How about this. To vote, you must be able to read and write and speak English. You must own land. You must not be on any sort of government subsidized freebies.

Then we will have competent people voting for their beliefs, and not for their wallets.

 

[No Limit]

who DO drive around in luxury cars with lots of bling on them as they head on down to the pawn shop to hawk some of their crap so they can buy some fast food.

You know what we call those people? Drug dealers. To say that most poor people on welfare are driving luxury cars is just stupid.

 

[Saturos]

Apparently raising the tax on the wealthy to it was under Clinton, and lowering the tax on the poor, is fascist and one step away from rounding up the middle class to shovel into ovens. Also, its funny that America was the only country to have civil war over the right to enslave and didn't just try to buy out the slave out traders like every other country on the planet. Silly Americans.

Emancipation was used as a war tactic to destabilize the South's economy, which largely depended on slave labor, but the North still had many states where slavery was still an active labor force.

Had the South not have seceded, slave labor would have continued in the Union much longer tbh. Emancipation started long before the war, as Union legislators anticipated unease among the southern states many years prior to Lincoln's inauguration.

The reason why the union didn't simply just "buy out" slave traders of the South was because of rapidly growing capitalistic free-labor industrialism.

Big-wigs back then couldn't make money buying out millions of southern slave owners.

BTW, it was the Republican party who abolished slavery. Democrats at the time were largely pro-slave ownership. Interesting no?

 

[Escaep]

What's with America and calling for armed revolutions? You're past that stage in your goddamn history. Stop trying to bring it back.

What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787.

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere." --Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1787.

God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion... We have had thirteen States independent for eleven years. There has been one rebellion. That comes to one rebellion in a century and a half, for each State. What country before ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion?" --Thomas Jefferson to William S. Smith, 1787.

I hold it that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms are in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people, which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is medicine necessary for the sound health of government." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787.

because tj says so.

 

[Jintor]

Must be ingrained in American DNA.

 

[Eejit]

What's with America and calling for armed revolutions? You're past that stage in your goddamn history. Stop trying to bring it back.

because tj says so.

Do you see what you missed there?

 

[Escaep]

Do you see what you missed there?

Do you see what you missed there?

 

[Eejit]

Yeah, TJ could see the future as well as being infallible.

 

[staticprimer]

BTW, it was the Republican party who abolished slavery. Democrats at the time were largely pro-slave ownership. Interesting no?

Interesting? Sure. Does it have any relevance to the modern Republican and Democratic parties? Not in the slightest.