To which ideology do you belong?

[The Monkey]

I've (*cough*wikipedia*cough*) put the ideologies in 4 groups. Please vote.

 

[Razor]

I've (*cough*wikipedia*cough*) put the ideologies in 4 groups. Please vote.

They all seem crap ideologies to me.

Liberals lacked the balls to get the job done
Neo-Conservatives lack the common sense to do anything without blowing stuff up.
Facism has a bad stereotype
Communism, the purer form i.e. Lenin, stifles competition and therefore slows progress.

edit: My ideology is that if you work hard, play hard, put others infront of yourself and are willing to work for the betterment of mankind and willing to die to protect your family and loved ones, you should get what you deserve. Same as if your a lazy, good for nothing, sod that tries to leach off society and would be too cowardly to do anything other than run when your life and the lives of your loved ones are threatened and allow yourself and your loved ones to be enslaved, murdered and beaten, again should get what you deserve.

 

[Icarusintel]

these are way too broad, where's the ideology for laziness? oh wait... that's right, it's socialism and liberalism... my bad

 

[The Monkey]

I believe in Social Democracy; the free market exists, but it doesn't exploit the weak in society, and it makes a country grow into a welfare state where few injustices exists, and a country where no one goes hungry or have to live on the street. Social Democracy build Sweden from one of the poorest countries in Europe in the 30s to one of the richest and healthiest countries in the 60s. The same thing happened in the rest of Scandinavia, despite it being broken by wars and occupations.

 

[$kelet0r]

socio-capitalism
oh The_Monkey nailed it for me - my beliefs in a nutshell

 

[Ennui]

socialistic or liberalistic.

 

[Tr0n]

Mine?Well I guess I'm just a rebel.

 

[$kelet0r]

damn confederate you!
*shakes fist

 

[SOCL]

Mine?Well I guess I'm just a rebel.

When someone says they're a rebel, what does that quite mean? Does that mean you still believe in the Confederate cause? I'm not being sarcastic, but 100% truthful (and, yes, I took note of the winking smiley, but am regardless curious).

 

[Icarusintel]

i'm an asshole... does that count?

 

[The Monkey]

When someone says they're a rebel, what does that quite mean? Does that mean you still believe in the Confederate cause? I'm not being sarcastic, but 100% truthful (and, yes, I took note of the winking smiley, but am regardless curious).

Rebel means that you're opposing the current system, often with violence. And it's not a certain ideology.

 

[Kangy]

I don't have an ideology, I just pick whichever solution makes most sense to me at the time I have to choose a solution. I think setting yourself an ideology and sticking to it forever, no matter what damage it may bring is really quite foolish.

 

[Tr0n]

Rebel means that you're opposing the current system, often with violence. And it's not a certain ideology.

...or just defying authority.Which is guess what I like to do.

Also I guess I could consider myself a centrist...or somethin'.

 

[BeaverMon]

i'm an asshole... does that count?

I always wanted to do this. Sigged!!

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

conservative/fascist

 

[SOCL]

Rebel means that you're opposing the current system, often with violence. And it's not a certain ideology.

I do realize, but I assumed he meant that he was a rebel in reference to the southern United States being rebels in support of the Confederacy. I realize not everyone who flies a Confederate flag still believes this, but if not, then why call themselves a rebel? A Southern rebel? That's what I don't quite understand.

I don't have an ideology, I just pick whichever solution makes most sense to me at the time I have to choose a solution. I think setting yourself an ideology and sticking to it forever, no matter what damage it may bring is really quite foolish.

Perhaps you are confusing ideology and political party affiliation(?).

 

[Tr0n]

What country are you from SOCL?Or state?

 

[SOCL]

What country are you from SOCL?Or state?

I was born in Puerto Rico, but have lived over much of the USA. Most of my time has been spent, though, in the Hampton Roads area of Virginia and the Fort Campbell area in Kentucky (an hour north of Nashville, TN). To be quite honest, I had never seen any Confederate flags flown until I moved to Fort Campbell (despite what people say about Hampton Roads being the South, I had never heard a southern accent nor seen a Confederate flag flown--except for reenactments at Yorktown--in my entire life prior to being moved/relocated to Kentucky/Tennessee).

 

[The Monkey]

...or just defying authority.Which is guess what I like to do.

Also I guess I could consider myself a centrist...or somethin'.

Centrist between which ideologies?

conservative/fascist

Seriously? Do you relize that fascism is based purely on violence, and has caused more than 100 million deaths?

 

[Tr0n]

Ok well...

Rebel is usually just something yankees (northerners) sometimes call us southerners.Which in turn we call them yankees.Some people call themselves rebels because I guess they are rebels.They don't care much for authority...Most southerners are rebels at heart.

Anyways you get the point.If you go deeper south like to Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Georgia you would see more confed flags.Surprised you never heard a southern accent.

Centrist between which ideologies?

Hell I don't know...all of them?

 

[The Monkey]

Yeah why not?

 

[SOCL]

If you go deeper south like to Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Georgia you would see more confed flags.Surprised you never heard a southern accent.

I have been deeper south on a few occasions (I'm currently in Georgia for the summer) and have seen more Confederate flags. I just found it a bit odd, was all, because most of those people who fly that particular flag also claim to be patriotic Americans, which to me seems like a paradox. :rolling:
Have you ever been to Hampton Roads? Yeah, and southern accents were something that I had only heard in movies and maybe once or twice. I always that it was an exaggerated stereotype that people in the South actually spoke that way, but I suppose I was wrong. Understand also that before I lived in Virginia, I lived in Oceanside, California and brief periods of my life after CA and before/during VA were spent in Chicago, Orlando, and D.C. If I ever saw a Confederate flag before moving to Kentucky, I probably assumed it was just another Civil War reenactment like the ones I saw as a kid at Yorktown, VA.

 

[Tr0n]

I have been deeper south on a few occasions (I'm currently in Georgia for the summer) and have seen more Confederate flags. I just found it a bit odd, was all, because most of those people who fly that particular flag also claim to be patriotic Americans, which to me seems like a paradox. :rolling:
Have you ever been to Hampton Roads? Yeah, and southern accents were something that I had only heard in movies and maybe once or twice. I always that it was an exaggerated stereotype that people in the South actually spoke that way, but I suppose I was wrong. Understand also that before I lived in Virginia, I lived in Oceanside, California and brief periods of my life after CA and before/during VA were spent in Chicago, Orlando, and D.C. If I ever saw a Confederate flag before moving to Kentucky, I probably assumed it was just another Civil War reenactment like the ones I saw as a kid at Yorktown, VA.

Yea it is a paradox...very complicated.It would take me a long time to explain it to ya'll and so on.Also no, southern accents ain't a stereotype...hell I have one.It's more or less of how much of an accent they have.Usually there's three types of souther accents:

1.Light: You bearly even notice if they have one.You might notice it everytime they say a certain word.
2.Medium(the sexy one): You notice they have one, but it ain't over the top...This is the one I have.
3.Hardcore: Well you can already guess this one.

 

[SOCL]

Yea it is a paradox...very complicated.It would take me a long time to explain it to ya'll and so on.Also no, southern accents ain't a stereotype...hell I have one.It's more or less of how much of an accent they have.Usually there's three types of souther accents:

1.Light: You bearly even notice if they have one.You might notice it everytime they say a certain word.
2.Medium(the sexy one): You notice they have one, but it ain't over the top...This is the one I have.
3.Hardcore: Well you can already guess this one.

The biggest situation I've had with southern accents has been the fact that I cannot understand a word that is being said to me.

 

[French Ninja]

Populist

 

[Icarusintel]

2.Medium(the sexy one): You notice they have one, but it ain't over the top...

QFT, emphasis added, a nice southern accent on a hot chick just makes me stand tall

 

[jondy]

Seriously? Do you relize that fascism is based purely on violence, and has caused more than 100 million deaths?

Rakurai's gonna go to town with that quote

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Seriously? Do you relize that fascism is based purely on violence, and has caused more than 100 million deaths?

No, Fascism is not based purely on violence, view the Manifesto thread

 

[The Monkey]

No, Fascism is not based purely on violence, view the Manifesto thread

But Fascism has changed since the manifesto was written, just as the communist has changed since its manifesto was written. Fascism today doesn't only mean what's written in the manifesto, but what Mussolini, Franco and Hitler did with it.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

But Fascism has changed since the manifesto was written, just as the communist has changed since its manifesto was written. Fascism today doesn't only mean what's written in the manifesto, but what Mussolini, Franco and Hitler did with it.

I'm not what you're thinking of fascism today, then. In actuality, any fascism movement today IS the manifesto, just not the term people use to slander with it. The problem is there isn't another way to describe it because that's what it's been named is known as, it's a dilemna almost all the fascist parties face, once they explain their views to people they can get or not get members based on whether the people actually agree or disagree with their policies, not just seeing the name and going 'ohnoes'

http://www.americanfascistmovement.com/platform.htm

edit: Also Hitler was national socialist, and was a race nationalist, too, rather than a.. national nationalist.

 

[MuToiD_MaN]

Every one of the categories has a negative connotation to me, but I'd say that I lean more to socialist ideals than anything else.

 

[GiaOmerta]

edit: My ideology is that if you work hard, play hard, put others infront of yourself and are willing to work for the betterment of mankind and willing to die to protect your family and loved ones, you should get what you deserve. Same as if your a lazy, good for nothing, sod that tries to leach off society and would be too cowardly to do anything other than run when your life and the lives of your loved ones are threatened and allow yourself and your loved ones to be enslaved, murdered and beaten, again should get what you deserve.

I totally agree. I meant to click Other and unfortunatelly clicked Populist Political Ideologies (such as fascism and nazism) instead. Hey what can you do.

 

[The Monkey]

I'm not what you're thinking of fascism today, then. In actuality, any fascism movement today IS the manifesto, just not the term people use to slander with it. The problem is there isn't another way to describe it because that's what it's been named is known as, it's a dilemna almost all the fascist parties face, once they explain their views to people they can get or not get members based on whether the people actually agree or disagree with their policies, not just seeing the name and going 'ohnoes'

http://www.americanfascistmovement.com/platform.htm

edit: Also Hitler was national socialist, and was a race nationalist, too, rather than a.. national nationalist.

But the manifesto seems to imply that fascism is left wing, almost communist, and yet you said that you are conservative/fascist. How does that work out?

And National Socialism if a form of Fascism. At least the form that most people recognize fascism as.

EDIT: I found this at the website you posted.

Democracy is a facade: when people act as individuals, deciding what he or she wants to do, it equals chaos. Democracy is too weak to be relied on; for liberalism spends too much emphasis on individualism which separates communities and people into groups, hence creating class conflict. Democracy is anarchy with a less shocking name. As Fascists we will make sure that control, unity, and obedience will be the top priorities for the people of America. These three aspects will without a doubt lower crime, poverty, and allow people to live normal, more traditional ways of life.

If you support that I don't know what to say.

 

[ray_MAN]

Independantism: I go with what seems will be best for the country and what will play out better in the long run.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

EDIT: I found this at the website you posted.If you support that I don't know what to say.

Yes, the government structure becomes Corporatist.

Just because it's not a democracy, doesn't mean it's not a voting system.

edit: Here's a good link on fascism in use as a political epithet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_(epithet)

 

[Reaktor4]

sensible political ideologies.