Who did we fight in the 7 hour war?

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Yes, obviously it was the Combine empire. But what did their army compose of, their foot soldiers couldn't be humans simply because they hadn't found us yet. It couldn't have been advisers because they're nothing but a blob. I mean they can move but, they're limited plus they show no signs of real weaponry besides jabbing people's head with a tongue or whatever. I highly doubt their telekinesis would do that much, unless they could send away thousands of bullets from a mini gun at a super fast pace. Which could happen but seems unlikely.
When they came to earth did that just use aerial attacks on us with big ships. And just buzz us down, which wouldn't make to much sense because wouldn't they leave a few in C17 to take out Freeman. Also bringing me to another point. If they used another species they enslaved to conquer earth, don't you think they would leave a few of those aliens on earth as soldiers I 'm not sure they would pull them all back just so they could use all the humans as soldiers.
Besides if the race was powerful enough to fend us off for 7 hours then they must be powerful enough to fight the combine, why the hell are humans stuck to the task. Combine weapons and armor couldn't off been so advanced that we wouldn't hurt them with a nuclear bomb, if so why couldn't Magnuson and Klienr of whipped one up to destroy the citadel.
Anybody else have an idea?
 
For some reason, you forgot about Synths. Which is pretty impresive, because that a pretty big to forget about.
So yeah, they probably used Synths (Stirders, Gunships, Hunters, etc.). With them and with the Citadels (which simply appear when the Combine invaded)they had a pretty massive force.
 
Well, why the hell didn't they send all that after Freeman to kill him?
 
Citadels can take a nuke, and they were centralized in our cities so we would have to shoot ourselves in the crotch to take them down anyway.
 
A2 Leopard tank > Strider

Joint Strike Fighter > Gunships

And what happend to the NAVY? I just can't beleve the entire earth's army was defeated in 7 hour war :/
 
You have to consider, a war can be fought in 7 hours just as easily as it can in several years.

I mean, if you had the ability to rapidly "spawn" entire forward bases in the heart of your opponents population centres, whilst systematically hurling thousands upon thousands of highly advanced troops and support tech at the remaining forces, I think you'd win pretty damn fast.
 
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Cheggit out.
 
It's probably worth pointing out that the Seven Hour War took place a considerable amount of time - probably a year or more - after the Portal Storms began and deposited aliens all over Earth in droves. Since the Portal Storms pretty much took human civilisation by surprise, it's safe to assume the Xen aliens that randomly appeared all over the place created plenty of chaos of their own, maybe even killing millions of people worldwide.

With the Earth's population condensed into cities and the military busy with the aliens, it was probably like shooting fish in a barrel for the Combine when they launched their invasion.

As for what the invasion force consisted of, they would have used Synths like Striders, Hunters, Gunships, Dropships and probably a lot of others we've never actually encountered in combat. (For example, the Crab synth and the Mortar synth)

This is only speculation, but I suspect that the invasion force, whatever it's composition, simply crushed Earth's defenses through sheer weight of numbers. It wouldn't have helped that humanity was, once again, taken completely by surprise and also that military forces had little time to adjust and develop new tactics for fighting these new enemies. Seven hours is a very short time in which to lose a war.

It's also my theory that the majority (or at least a large portion) of the invasion force was redeployed elsewhere once Earth had been conquered and a suitable garrison had been established to rule over the remaining Human population and maintain order. This is why the hodgepodge Resistance were eventually able to do what the organised militaries of the world couldn't. That is, defeat the Combine in open battle. Because the Combine forces that remain on Earth by the time Half-Life 2 begins, formidable as they may be, probably pale in comparison to the size of the initial invasion force. In short, the Combine underestimated Humanity's ability to resist and bounce back, with dire consequences.

Also... (warning EP2 spoiler)

When the Combine tried to open the superportal in Episode Two, I'll bet the backup force they were trying to summon was of similar size to the original invasion force. Like Eli said: "It'll be the Seven Hour War all over again, only this time, we won't last seven minutes."
 
Well, you're still wrong, they happened during the portal storms.
 
What happened during the portal storms? Define "they".

If you mean the Seven Hour War happened during the portal storms, then I agree with you. I didn't say: "the Seven Hour War took place after the Portal Storms occured"

No. I said:

the Seven Hour War [probably] took place a year or more after the Portal Storms began.
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As far as my knowledge goes, there is every reason to believe the Portal Storms have continued since the Nihilanth's death, which means they were still occuring when the Seven Hour War took place and are still occuring by the time Gordon arrives in City 17. I do not dispute this, so how am I wrong?

Hunters are not Synths. Stop with it.
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As I understand it, a Synth, in the Half-Life universe, is a living creature modified for military duty by the Combine. Explain how a Hunter does not fit this description.
 
I am truly sorry about that. :(

All I can say is I took "Beware: spoilers allowed." too literally and didn't read the EP2 exception sticky (which, incidentally, isn't even in this section) until it was too late.
 
MattyDienhoff said:
As far as my knowledge goes, there is every reason to believe the Portal Storms have continued since the Nihilanth's death, which means they were still occuring when the Seven Hour War took place and are still occuring by the time Gordon arrives in City 17. I do not dispute this, so how am I wrong?
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Except that killing the nihilianth had as a main goal stopping the resonance cascade.
However. nothing tells us wheter the portals randomly opening were not globalized.
 
As I said, a "Synth" is simply a living creature modified or "co-opted" by the Combine for military service. (Which includes humans) True, the word "Synth" does imply "Synthetic" or "Synthesized" but we really have no clue as to the origin of these creatures so whether they are indeed created by the Combine, through cloning or whatnot, or are simply bred is open to speculation.

That said, if a Strider is to be considered a Synth, then so should Hunters. They're both living creatures with biomodifications. I don't see the difference.
 
Breeding is inefficient. If you've the tech, stop breeding and produce them in labs.
 
Cheomesh said:
Except that they are.
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There not synths if you compare them to a Strider or Gunships.

They are more robotic, hense the sound effects they make, the running noises, the squeals etc, but they will have blood/fluid and a brain of some sort.
 
Nicky 0123 said:
There not synths if you compare them to a Strider or Gunships.

They are more robotic, hense the sound effects they make, the running noises, the squeals etc, but they will have blood/fluid and a brain of some sort.
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Yes, but still a Synth.
 
There robotic completly robotic from what I see. Even gunships seem to make biological noise's. Hunters don't. There tools, weapons liker our tanks and guns. Artificial.
 
z0mbin3 said:
There robotic completly robotic from what I see. Even gunships seem to make biological noise's. Hunters don't. There tools, weapons liker our tanks and guns. Artificial.
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The white parts of the hunter seem quite fleshy to me.
 
I mean, they are less living than strider or gunships.

And, Portal Stormzzz, I think the legs are actually robotic, if you listen when they run, it doesnt sound like a living creature.
 
True, that's entirely possible, but the point is, a synth is a living creature with 'enhancements'. The Combine would augment a Hunter's legs if it meant they could run faster. That doesn't mean it's entirely robotic.
 
I think the legs are actually robotic, if you listen when they run, it doesnt sound like a living creature.
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any way you want it, that's the way it be. IT IS A CLAW. NOT A ROBOT FOOT.
DO NOT QUESTION TEH AUTHORITA OF PORTALSTORMZZZZ'Z SIYENTIFIK EVALULAYSHUNZ!!!!
 
PortalStormzzzz is right. Like I said, their legs are probably organic, but augmented with some kind of technology to enhance their abilities and/or make them stronger. This would be the reason for that somewhat mechanical sound you can hear when they're running.

if you listen when they run, it doesnt sound like a living creature.
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It sounds kind of like hydraulics, so I'm thinking: Did the Combine augment the Hunter's joints in some way?
 
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