zen fauna- gonarchs in training?

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anyone seen that xen fauna in hl1 that looks like a large headcrab stretching out its legs into the ground? I know headcrab/gonarch growth has been discussed before, but this wasnt mentioned. so anyway, I was thinking could this fauna be a headcrab growing into a gonarch? I'll get a screeny tomorrow and edit this post with it, I'm tired right now.:sleep:
 
Hah, you are suggesting that those big plants are turning into Gonarchs? Well we know the Gonarch gives birth to baby headcrabs, which mature into the normal ones, find a host - zombie, then turn into the big powerful running zombies (i wish i could remember their name :(), then to the Gonarch from there...by some means. I'm pretty sure those things aren't maturing Gonarchs.

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Hah, you are suggesting that those big plants are turning into Gonarchs? Well we know the Gonarch gives birth to baby headcrabs, which mature into the normal ones, find a host - zombie, then turn into the big powerful running zombies (i wish i could remember their name :(), then to the Gonarch from there...by some means. I'm pretty sure those things aren't maturing Gonarchs.

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Actually, the fast zombies are from fast headcrabs. It's interesting to think about how there are 3 kinds of headcrabs...

I seem to remember something saying Gonarch is a final form of a headcrab. Hrm.
 
Actually, the fast zombies are from fast headcrabs. It's interesting to think about how there are 3 kinds of headcrabs...

I wasn't talking about fast zombies, that is obvious. I'm talking about the Gonome stage Darkangel mentioned, thanks for reminding me of the name. The Gonarch is the last stage, yes.
 
anyone seen that xen fauna in hl1 that looks like a large headcrab stretching out its legs into the ground? I know headcrab/gonarch growth has been discussed before, but this wasnt mentioned. so anyway, I was thinking could this fauna be a headcrab growing into a gonarch? I'll get a screeny tomorrow and edit this post with it, I'm tired right now.:sleep:

I remember thinking the same thing a little while back.

It seems that none of the xen creatures are viable hosts for the headcrab, so it is most likely that these plant forms are the only way for the headcrab to gather nutrients.
 
O`Rly?
I dont really think so, while thinking so, i would like to hijack this thread and ask why the pools in xen heal you?
 
I wasn't talking about fast zombies, that is obvious. I'm talking about the Gonome stage Darkangel mentioned, thanks for reminding me of the name. The Gonarch is the last stage, yes.

Ohhh, the Gonomes.

(whoa, hello Firefox 2 spell check... apparently Gonome isn't a word! And I spelled apparently wrong the first time writing this!)

Heh, I didn't play Op4. I always forget- is Op4 considered canon? I could see Gonomes being a real stage, yes. Still trying to figure out:
1) How they survived on Xen
2) How they go from Gonome to Gonarch
 
Ohhh, the Gonomes.

(whoa, hello Firefox 2 spell check... apparently Gonome isn't a word! And I spelled apparently wrong the first time writing this!)

Heh, I didn't play Op4. I always forget- is Op4 considered canon? I could see Gonomes being a real stage, yes. Still trying to figure out:
1) How they survived on Xen
2) How they go from Gonome to Gonarch

ISnt that what this thread is about
 
anyone seen that xen fauna in hl1 that looks like a large headcrab stretching out its legs into the ground? I know headcrab/gonarch growth has been discussed before, but this wasnt mentioned. so anyway, I was thinking could this fauna be a headcrab growing into a gonarch? I'll get a screeny tomorrow and edit this post with it, I'm tired right now.:sleep:
It's actually a flora, not a fauna. :)

These are part of the plant life on Xen, maybe the only natural things to grow there (as all fauna was "imported" from other worlds). I've always called these trees "breathers," because of the large hole at the top of them that looks like its taking in air, or "lychees," because they look like a skinned lychee fruit. These plants are like a very large fungus. Although they have four stalks that look like legs, and their top looks similar in texture and color to a headcrab, it's just a coincidence. Gonarchs mutate from hosted headcrabs.

It seems that none of the xen creatures are viable hosts for the headcrab, so it is most likely that these plant forms are the only way for the headcrab to gather nutrients.
Anything is a viable host for a headcrab. Anything with a nervous system. On Xen, vortigaunts are probably their main prey.

Heh, I didn't play Op4. I always forget- is Op4 considered canon? I could see Gonomes being a real stage, yes. Still trying to figure out:
1) How they survived on Xen
2) How they go from Gonome to Gonarch
Yes, OpFor is considered canon. Are you asking how a gonome could survive on Xen? They'd survive quite a bit easier than a zombie would.

Gonomes are fast--not as fast as a fast zombie, but they've got a good sprint. They can close in on prey quickly, prey that might otherwise elude a zombie. They're also a lot bigger, and a lot tougher. In addition to that, they can throw gobs of acid goo out of their chests, which is good for flinging at prey that's out of reach (on a nearby floating island, for example).

To go from gonome to gonarch, well, lots of food, I can say that much. :) Other than that, don't know if there are any other catalysts involved...things like a certain area, certain temperature, a hibernation period...any of those or more factors could play a hand in it. I will say though that the mutation wouldn't (or rather, can't) go from gonome go from gonarch. There's at least one step between, and I'd say as many as four. The jump from gonome to gonarch is too great; a lot of physical changes have to occur before it gets to the final stage.

I would like to hijack this thread and ask why the pools in xen heal you?
I'm gonna say bacteria. The sound the pools make and the glowing light radiating from them make them seem mystical, but it's probably more something along the lines of bacteria cleaning out your wounds and accelerating your body's own healing (because I don't think they'd be stitching up your wounds themselves :p). They might be like maggots, in a sense, which only feed off dead, rotted flesh; the bacteria might feed off of injuries and that sort of thing, if only because it'd be a bit silly to suggest there are pools of bacteria healing you out of kindness.
 
It's actually a flora, not a fauna. :)

These are part of the plant life on Xen, maybe the only natural things to grow there (as all fauna was "imported" from other worlds). I've always called these trees "breathers," because of the large hole at the top of them that looks like its taking in air, or "lychees," because they look like a skinned lychee fruit. These plants are like a very large fungus. Although they have four stalks that look like legs, and their top looks similar in texture and color to a headcrab, it's just a coincidence. Gonarchs mutate from hosted headcrabs.


Anything is a viable host for a headcrab.[/B] Anything with a nervous system. On Xen, vortigaunts are probably their main prey.


Yes, OpFor is considered canon. Are you asking how a gonome could survive on Xen? They'd survive quite a bit easier than a zombie would.

I really have to disagree with you there. The Vortigaunts and headcrabs won't even attack eachother in Half Life 1.

We have never seen a headcrab infest anything other than humans, and considering how difficult it would be for them to fit around the heads of other creatures (including Vortigaunts), I find it very difficult to believe that they can infest any of the aliens we have seen so far.

Another note on the "headcrab plant". There is only three places you see these in the first Half-Life:

1. The teleporter that leads to Gonarch's Lair

2. In Gonarchs Lair

3. In a small pool in "Interloper" next to a group of headcrabs.
The only place you see these plants is in or around Gonarch's Lair, and considering the sheer number of them we see in her lair it is most likely that they are headcrabs.
 
Their model name is simply fungus but they do resemble headcrabs in colouring and in the 4 legs thing. They're all over Gonarch's Lair and another interesting thing is that in OP4 a few Gonomes seem to have set up a sort of nest. They're some green Xen moss and those fungi make an appearance there too.

And I would say Vortigaunts are a headcrabs natural prey. There is only 1 part of any HL game I remember seeing a live headcrab and Vort together; in Blue Shift, for about 1 second (the time it takes to shoot a Vort in the face :P) and as said by many before, Gearbox stuff should be taken with a pinch of salt (and besides, the do attack eachother in HL2, what stopped then attacking eachother before? Where headcrabs all controlled by Nihilanth :rolleyes:). It is so incredibly unlikly that headcrabs could have evolved the ability to take a host without ever having taken a host that if you asked God himself to give you the odds he wouldn't be able to figure them out with the help of Einstien, Newton and Aristotle. They must have some natural prey and the most likly candidate is Vortigaunts.
 
I think the Headcrabs attack Vortigaunts in Half Life 2 because there isn't much food around. I can't prove it but it seems logical.

I think if Headcrabs could infest other creatures Valve would have atleast mentioned it by now. I mean, headcrabs being able to infest Combine soldiers is one thing (they seem to have found a way to remove the helmet). Headcrabs suddenly being able to infest another species is a little out of left field.

I mean just picture it:

Citizen 1: "Look Gordon, the headcrabs got another Vortigaunt"

Alyx: "Funny, I don't remember them turning Vortigaunts into zombies."

Citizen 1: "C'mon, they've always been able to do that."

Alyx: "Then how come I haven't seen any until now."

Citizen 1: "..."
 
I think if Headcrabs could infest other creatures Valve would have atleast mentioned it by now. I mean, headcrabs being able to infest Combine soldiers is one thing (they seem to have found a way to remove the helmet). Headcrabs suddenly being able to infest another species is a little out of left field.
Headcrabs must be able to infest something else. You don't evolve a parasitic relationship with another organism when you've never seem that thing before. It just couldn't happen. And Vortigaunts are quite humanoid.
 
Valve's had no reason to mention it. It's implied. As Riom said, if headcrabs weren't parasitic on their homeworld and Xen, and just suddenly gained the ability to zombify creatures on Earth...well that's not very logical, is it?

Also, two more things: headcrabs could easily fit around the heads of vortigaunts and grunts, and two there's a bit of evidence suggesting that the headcrab, despite its name, does not need a head to zombify a creature, simply a nervous system.
 
Oh yeah, and if they can get Combine Soldiers then the HEV helmet is redundant for that purpose. Still good for toxic waste and stuff. If it exists. :P
 
Bah, vortigaunts have zappy energy lightning of DOOM! For a headcrab to go against a vortigaunt is like a dog going against a man with a shotgun. Humans are just so much easier.
 
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