Being fat might be outlawed(In a sense)

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Just read in the newspaper that if a certain law passes through all overweight(really fat) kids will be sent to homes where they will immediatly be put on hard diets in order to become normal weight, now that's what I call healthcare!:laugh:
 
Gargantou said:
Just read in the newspaper that if a certain law passes through all overweight(really fat) kids will be sent to homes where they will immediatly be put on hard diets in order to become normal weight, now that's what I call healthcare!:laugh:
Wish they had that in america.
 
Zero chance of this passing in any reasonably democratic country, including US and UK.
 
Why, it should, they aren't doing this to harm the children, they're doing it because of the fact that being very fat gives you heart problems and puts an enormous strain on your body.
 
-The people would just gain the weight back as soon as they left the institution
-Involuntary imprisonment without charge is illegal
-It is not the job of the state to stop people from hurting themselves
 
-I was involuntary imprisoned in a psychiatric home when I as 10 year old, so you mean they did something illegal.
-By doing what I stated above they stoped me from hurting myself.
 
Also if they do this...they must make the schools have better PE activities and get rid of the junk food at the cafeterias.So once the kids out of the insitution...they won't get fat again.
 
Dont know about this.... the world is so obssed with fat.

You cant still buy cigaretts and Alcohol, the medicine you get is so poorly tested that the side effects some times leave you worse off, they add so many chemicals in food, etc etc.... and still Men´s numbers (fitt seize) has gone down, im now medium, i have always been large, my wife who has always been medium, now have to look in the larger lady´s section... but hey we can still die of cancer and drink our selfs to death, but we have to do it slim?
 
I do see the error in this now, but still I know alot fat kids in my school who don't want to be fat but can't get themselves to go on diets, this could help? But then it should be voluntary I guess...
 
RRunner said:
Dont know about this.... the world is so obssed with fat.

You cant still buy cigaretts and Alcohol, the medicine you get is so poorly tested that the side effects some times leave you worse off, they add so many chemicals in food, etc etc.... and still Men´s numbers (fitt seize) has gone down, im now medium, i have always been large, my wife who has always been medium, now have to look in the larger lady´s section... but hey we can still die of cancer and drink our selfs to death, but we have to do it slim?
We need natural herbs medicine damn't!

Screw the company bio crap.
 
Gargantou said:
I do see the error in this now, but still I know alot fat kids in my school who don't want to be fat but can't get themselves to go on diets, this could help? But then it should be voluntary I guess...

Yes i do see the proble in it. I saw a program on danish tv, they did a study where they gave 10 children between 2-5 years old, 5 pictures of children, 1 had 1 arm, 1 had 1 leg, 1 was really tall, 1 was really short and 1 was fat. now they had to put the pictures in the oreder, by whom the wanted to play with the most. The fat kid was last in 8 of the cases and in the 2 others it was 4. and 3.

So if you let you child grow fat, it will likely have less friends...sad stuff...
 
No, "chemical" medicines have done wonders forme, my anti-deppressants are great, for once I can have days without being suicidal.:)
Buuut, herbal medicines need to become far more used, it seems that alot of ignorant people think that everything herbal is like superultradangerous.:|
But what we need to make the most use of is the bodies own medicines, for example I read somewhere that the brain has its own chemical substitute for cannabis, works in the same way but not really dangerous, it is apparently released when being massaged or such and gives you the relaxed sensation, now imagine if we could do a medicine that made it release that chemical at any time, it could let really stressed people relax at work really easily I think?
 
Gargantou said:
No, "chemical" medicines have done wonders forme, my anti-deppressants are great, for once I can have days without being suicidal.:)
Buuut, herbal medicines need to become far more used, it seems that alot of ignorant people think that everything herbal is like superultradangerous.:|
But what we need to make the most use of is the bodies own medicines, for example I read somewhere that the brain has its own chemical substitute for cannabis, works in the same way but not really dangerous, it is apparently released when being massaged or such and gives you the relaxed sensation, now imagine if we could do a medicine that made it release that chemical at any time, it could let really stressed people relax at work really easily I think?
Awsome thinking.

Now go make that drug for me...because currently...I need it badly.

Also we need a new medicine to replace penicillin because we have used it so much since it was first created....germs/bacteria are slowly starting to get immune to it.So ether we make another drug to replace it...or cut down on the penicillin use.
 
Yeah I know, they are become immune to our drugs and becoming superdangerous bacteria that ain't cureable.
 
If I saw myself getting fat, I'd be like woah, and stop eating. I know there are many medical conditions and psychological issues but come on. Stop eating crap!

Comfort eating? Why not comfort run. Or comfort dont go eat Macdonalds. Again.
 
Kind of a weird coincidence, the anti-depressants I used to be on gave a huge boost to my appetite. I used to be skin and bones. That's depressing :(
 
"Daddy, you're sending me to fat camp?!"
"No, son, we're sending you to fat prison."

This will never fly. Just put DDR in schools, that'll thin kids out.
 
The govermant can't force kids to be on a diet. With the parents permission, perhaps, but it still sounds like a really bad idea, and I doubt that the parliament will pass the law.
 
the only prescribed medicine ill take is antibiotics. If anyone offers me anti depressants I'll tell them where to stick them. Doctors are so quick to give you some pills to pop it makes me sick. Depressed? Ok take this. Cant sleep, Ill prescribe you this. Then You get dependant. Like legal drug pushers.
 
I saw Supersize Me recently and a guy in it brought up a very valid point. He mentioned that people would heckle a smoker for damaging their health, but not an obese person. Of course it's got a bit to do with the potential damages of passive smoking and classic social etiquette, but still...
 
el Chi said:
I saw Supersize Me recently and a guy in it brought up a very valid point. He mentioned that people would heckle a smoker for damaging their health, but not an obese person. Of course it's got a bit to do with the potential damages of passive smoking and classic social etiquette, but still...

Second hand smoke kills more than first hand smoking. You can't second hand eat. If somebody is fat, eating next to you, you're not in any danger compared to if someone is smoking near you.

Also, in heckling someone who smokes, its not as much about their personal appearance as it is with someone who is obese. Most people who speak against others smoking speak about the habit itself, not the physical changes derived from the smoking. Whereas with obese people, they're more made fun of for their appearance, rather than warned about their eating habits. Being made fun of for eating and weight will erode self confidence far more than being made fun of or scolded for smoking.
 
WySiWyG said:
the only prescribed medicine ill take is antibiotics. If anyone offers me anti depressants I'll tell them where to stick them. Doctors are so quick to give you some pills to pop it makes me sick. Depressed? Ok take this. Cant sleep, Ill prescribe you this. Then You get dependant. Like legal drug pushers.
Lol, I refused to take anti-deppressants for 4 years(Since I was 10) but after I talked with some friends who've taken them I started taking them too, and it really helped.
 
They do say that fat kids have inherited it from thier parents Genetically.

to be honest, its obvious. i knew this ages ago.
 
WySiWyG said:
the only prescribed medicine ill take is antibiotics. If anyone offers me anti depressants I'll tell them where to stick them. Doctors are so quick to give you some pills to pop it makes me sick. Depressed? Ok take this. Cant sleep, Ill prescribe you this. Then You get dependant. Like legal drug pushers.

I'm sure once you've got some debilitating condition later in life, you'll hold this same point of view, because obviously there are no prescription drugs out there that can have a legitimate use to do good.

I'll grant you that there are tons of prescribed drugs out there for the stupidest reasons, and they are coming out with more, but in that sea of stupidity, there are legitimate, life saving, life bettering prescription drugs.
 
I don't believe they automatically inherits it, but I think having fat parents makes you far more likely to become fat, but it doesn't have to be a neccessity, both my parents are fat, me and my brother ain't, I go to gym every day and work out, mainly because I don't want to become fat, but not that I'm worried about it, I'm acctually underweight :|
 
Gargantou said:
I don't believe they automatically inherits it, but I think having fat parents makes you far more likely to become fat, but it doesn't have to be a neccessity, both my parents are fat, me and my brother ain't, I go to gym every day and work out, mainly because I don't want to become fat, but not that I'm worried about it, I'm acctually underweight :|

Kids can automatically inherit it. They can be born chubby or fat, and their bodies can convert foods to fat far easier than other kids. Its called metabolism, and there's also other factors that is directly linked to genes. It may be easy for you to think it just simply isn't true if you haven't inherited those things, but it is indeed true.

There's different kinds of reasons people get overweight. Genetics(which require far more effort to remain thin), eating habits, and other reasons as well.
 
Yeah but what I mean is just because you have fat parents doesn't mean you yourself -have- to be fat.
 
Gargantou said:
Yeah but what I mean is just because you have fat parents doesn't mean you yourself -have- to be fat.

its Genetics.
most of the time, if their parents are obese. The child will become more obese at the age of 3 than a child with slimmer parents. i read it yesterday.. cant find the link atm :(
 
Gargantou said:
Yeah but what I mean is just because you have fat parents doesn't mean you yourself -have- to be fat.

Of course you don't have to be fat. But you may have to exert far more effort than can be expected of a child with school and homework and other things that they cannot control in their life. Whereas some kids, have it easier where they can adequately get all the exercise their body needs to keep the weight off in less amount of time.
 
I've acctually have a really hard time gaining weight, I've eaten tons of McDonalds food, and I really do mean alot, but I've only gained 5 kgs since the beginning of 2k4, and I'm really skinning looking, right now I'd rather be a little bit fat than thin, altho going to the gym is making me look more and more masculine, which really help when hitting at what we call "fjortisar" here.:p
 
Yeah, and my parents are really fat so that's odd.:p
But yeah, my doctor said something that my body like processes the food so fast that I don't absorb alot of fat from it, I hope it keeps up X3
 
Gargantou said:
Just read in the newspaper that if a certain law passes through all overweight(really fat) kids will be sent to homes where they will immediatly be put on hard diets in order to become normal weight, now that's what I call healthcare!:laugh:

hahaha not here in america
 
Gargantou said:
Just read in the newspaper that if a certain law passes through all overweight(really fat) kids will be sent to homes where they will immediatly be put on hard diets in order to become normal weight, now that's what I call healthcare!:laugh:


We need it the most. Seriously. When a quarter of the kids are obese, it's an epidemic.


Tynan said:
-It is not the job of the state to stop people from hurting themselves

Actually yes there is, suicide is illegal (in the sense that you'll dam be near-immediately sent to an institution), FYI.
 
Im not fat (actually people say I need to gain more weight) but I don't see the problem with being fat. Except that of course few people want a fat bf/gf if you are skinny but that's about it. If people want to be fat it's their decision not to excersize and work hard to get thin, and this seems unreasonable to FORCE them to get thin.
 
The problem with being really fat is that it's an healthissue, being very overweight puts a -huge- strain on your body and heart making it immediatly a threat to your health, that's why they're doing it.
 
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