For christ's sake...

Danimal · Apr 1, 2005

Today, I have seen on the news that Prince Charles was in a 'media brawl' because a mic picked up him saying something along the lines of "Bloody people. This guy is awful. He really is."

I am thinking that the media has kinda blown it out of proportion, do you think so?

15357 · Apr 1, 2005

Danimal said:
Today, I have seen on the news that Prince Charles was in a 'media brawl' because a mic picked up him saying something along the lines of "Bloody people. This guy is awful. He really is."

I am thinking that the media has kinda blown it out of proportion, do you think so?

kind of...

ah well, the price of being famous.

Orcone101 · Apr 1, 2005

I'm watching it now, I still don't see what's so bad about it.

Calanen · Apr 1, 2005

He really should know better, given he has been a Royal for a very long time now.....but maybe he just does not care anymore.

I don't think he should have married Camilla, or should. Too much of a nightmare for lots of reasons for the Palace. Better just to keep things the way they were. Queen Camilla is not going to go down well with the public.....

Link · Apr 1, 2005

Perhaps, as Calanen says, he has learnt not to care. Many people will be angry about this (The kind who get angry about every bad thing famous people do), but hopefully Charles has learnt to think "Their problem, not mine", although I doubt it.

G-Dub · Apr 1, 2005

the royal family are useless... didn't you know?

SimonomiS · Apr 1, 2005

Devvo said:
the royal family are useless... didn't you know?

Just a link to Englands past that some people are unwilling to let go.

Calanen · Apr 1, 2005

Prince Charles can to some extent not care, but not on the public dime. He gets a nice little annual stipend from taxpayers, and part of that money really needs to be repayed in raising the profile of the monarchy and making people want to come to the UK and spend their tourist monies seeing Buckingham Palace. If they think the Prince of Wales is a right knob, then they are not going to come....

So I think, far better to curse in private about the papparazzi, then be grumpy in public. Especially when it is the public who pays your wages.

And Prince Charles is not a very inspirational Prince of Wales. You read (or see the play) Shakespeare's Henry IV and you look up to Prince Hal (or Henry) the Prince of Wales in that. But Charles is someone you tend to feel sorry for rather than look up to.

In my opinion, his brother Andrew would have been a more inspirational Prince of Wales, given he was a chopper pilot and fought in the Falklands War. He rarely says or does anything stupid, at least not in front of the camera. But you can't help what order people are born in.....

From a PR perspective, they need to keep Prince Charles out of the public limelight, and put Prince William in it. Prince Harry is a tearaway wearing an Afrika Korps uniform to a party, being Harry Pothead for the press. Prince William seems the safest bet from a PR perspective. So I'd be having him out meeting and greeting, and put Charlie wherever Prince Phillip hides.

jondy · Apr 1, 2005

Calanen said:
If they think the Prince of Wales is a right knob, then they are not going to come....

I reckon more would come to see if the rumours were true :O

But seriously, Prince Charles is a legend. Besides, if I had the media crawling over my every move, I'd have a lot more to say than 'bloody people'.

I know he should know better, but tbh I feel sorry for him.

KoreBolteR · Apr 1, 2005

The royals are in media stories everyday, it jus turns me off buying/listening to them.. why have we got monarchs? its pointless? the queen makes all her money from out damn taxes! while she sits in her chair snoring.

Ennui · Apr 1, 2005

Danimal hates the media.

KoreBolteR · Apr 1, 2005

Ennui said:
Danimal hates the media.

and so do i.

Ren.182 · Apr 1, 2005

Well i'd swear and curse if i had cameras following me everywhere i went...

G-Dub · Apr 1, 2005

i hate the media too, always have!

what are the benefits of having "the media"?

marksmanHL2 :) · Apr 1, 2005

/me adds name to list of people who hate the media.

G-Dub · Apr 1, 2005

/me welcomes marksmanHL2

to the list

Tr0n · Apr 1, 2005

marksmanHL2 :) said:
/me adds name to list of people who hate the media.

/me does the same

PvtRyan · Apr 1, 2005

I think most people prefer a 'real person' as a king above some always polite dick. I can only say he's completely right, f*cking press mosquito's.

ComradeBadger · Apr 1, 2005

Heh - the monarchy serve a very useful purpuse - they are apolitical.

Unlike America's leader - who openly holds political views, and can be disliked, the Queen is a perfect ambassador for our country, as she has no publicised views.

Jangle · Apr 1, 2005

i would hate to be part of the royal family

xLostx · Apr 1, 2005

who cares, he's marrying an ugly woman anyway

Farrowlesparrow · Apr 1, 2005

KoreBolteR said:
The royals are in media stories everyday, it jus turns me off buying/listening to them.. why have we got monarchs? its pointless? the queen makes all her money from out damn taxes! while she sits in her chair snoring.

Those taxes amount to about 50p per tax payer every year...
So when you look at it as Badger suggets...its really not a big deal.

KoreBolteR · Apr 1, 2005

ComradeBadger said:
Heh - the monarchy serve a very useful purpuse - they are apolitical.

Unlike America's leader - who openly holds political views, and can be disliked, the Queen is a perfect ambassador for our country, as she has no publicised views.

Tony Blair and Government could dissolve the Monarchy at any time. so why dont they?

G-Dub · Apr 1, 2005

KoreBolteR said:
Tony Blair and Government could dissolve the Monarchy at any time. so why dont they?

could they? why is that?

jondy · Apr 2, 2005

KoreBolteR said:
Tony Blair and Government could dissolve the Monarchy at any time. so why dont they?

Because they're worth they're weight in gold for tourism alone? we have one of the most publicized and respected monarchies in the world.

On a side note - how much does the royal family weigh, and how much is gold of the equivalent weight worth

KoreBolteR · Apr 2, 2005

jondyfun said:
Because they're worth they're weight in gold for tourism alone? we have one of the most publicized and respected monarchies in the world.

On a side note - how much does the royal family weigh, and how much is gold of the equivalent weight worth

im guessing its part of out 'culture' then.

do people abroad when hear or see the words Britain or England, automatically think the queen, royals, monarchy, posh london accent?

Devvo said:
could they? why is that?

im not sure they ever will get rid of the royals tbh.

baxter · Apr 2, 2005

who cares, he's marrying an ugly woman anyway

Ha-ha agreed

Princess Di to Camilla Parker Bowles.... Let me think :dozey:

KoreBolteR · Apr 2, 2005

baxter said:
Ha-ha agreed

Princess Di to Camilla Parker Jones.... Let me think :dozey:

dont you mean Camilla Parker Bowles? lol

meh why am i correcting you, she's still ugly.

baxter · Apr 2, 2005

you are correct

KoreBolteR · Apr 2, 2005

baxter said:
you are correct

can i have a price for that? :upstare:

/me want a new pc :angel:

baxter · Apr 2, 2005

That's one I'll have to owe you. :angel:

as drunk as I am she is still ugly :dozey:

Kangy · Apr 2, 2005

Actually, this is one of the few things I can be happy Charles said.

A) My shares in the Royals on Celebdaq are through the roof and my value went up 30% overnight or something.

B) The media are awful. When my Mum's friend was at a ceremony to see the return of her son's coffin from Iraq, media photographers were actually climbing on the roof despite being barred from the actual indoor area. They're a bunch of heartless bastards who should all get a slap on the wrist for some of the crap they've produced over the years.

StardogChampion · Apr 2, 2005

It was pretty funny what he was saying actually. It's not like he was shouting it out, he was almost whispering it to his sons. Nobody likes the paparazzi.

Calanen · Apr 2, 2005

KoreBolteR said:
Tony Blair and Government could dissolve the Monarchy at any time. so why dont they?

I don't know that they could without the Queen's consent.

She would probably give it though. That is, the Queen has to assent to all parliamentary bills for them to come into force? So if the Queen, says no, I'm not signing...then under the current UK legal system I don't think they could get rid of her. There may be provisions for circumventing the failure of assent but I don't know enough about it to comment further.

This Queen would probably sign though, if people wanted her to go. But the UK gains a lot more from the monarchy in terms of international focus on UK and tourism then it loses from having them there. Its also part of Britain's heritage, and should not be lightly tossed away.

KoreBolteR · Apr 2, 2005

Calanen said:
I don't know that they could without the Queen's consent.

She would probably give it though. That is, the Queen has to assent to all parliamentary bills for them to come into force? So if the Queen, says no, I'm not signing...then under the current UK legal system I don't think they could get rid of her. There may be provisions for circumventing the failure of assent but I don't know enough about it to comment further.

This Queen would probably sign though, if people wanted her to go. But the UK gains a lot more from the monarchy in terms of international focus on UK and tourism then it loses from having them there. Its also part of Britain's heritage, and should not be lightly tossed away.

You're right Calanen :cheers:

For christ's sake...

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