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Ok so i forgot the poll.


In a word. Bugger.

Might as well use this for something.
I just saw this question on before, and i just thought what is the point of this kind of question. We are past all this, but it appears that the US isn't. (I'm not trying to be derogatory to the United States but they still have alot of insular thinking over there)

Anyway heres the question.

Do you approve of inter-racial marriages?

Yes - 61.83%
No - 28.24%
Undecided - 9.92%


Almost a third of the people said no!
 
You are shocked that it is that high? I was surprised that it was that low.
I think people are less accepting than that, especially if it is a direct relative. After all its all fine until it is a member of your family. I would bet that poll was in more urban areas.
 
well that's a loaded question. Saying no to whether you approve or not could just mean that you don't care either way. It's not like you think interracial marriages are better in some way. And undecided isn't the same as no opinion
 
I have no problem with inter-racial marriages.
 
It makes no difference. We are all human. Now if it was a Dog or a horse i might just vote no.
But its stupid the whole racism thing. Alot of the time it isnt racism its just like any other insult because they dont like that person. Not because they dont like other colours. Very few people are acctually racist, but political correctness says they are. Thankfully being P.C isnt as popular as it was, people can say things which they couldnt. Not that what they say is racist, its just in some far away part of the galaxy its possible some person who doesnt know whats going might get offended.
 
Most people will say they have absolutly no problem with it.

However when you ask if its ok if its their daughter, the approval rate drops dramatically.

Im no exception unfortunatly. While being one of the most anti-racist people you could argue with, i stil have that attutude. But thats ok. The only ones i would have a real problem with would be arabs. Luckly they are slitting their own throats with the spate of gang rapes by lebanese fellows here in sydney. If i had a daughter they wouldnt stand within 100 feet of them.
 
meh. If someone wants to marry another that is not the same race as theirs then I don't see why they shouldn't. I dont have any kids and probably wont for awhile now, but even if I did I really wouldn't care. Its their life not mine.
 
Originally posted by The Mullinator
meh. If someone wants to marry another that is not the same race as theirs then I don't see why they shouldn't. I dont have any kids and probably wont for awhile now, but even if I did I really wouldn't care. Its their life not mine.
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My thoughts exactly......but Farrow, how do you feel about gay marriages?
 
Originally posted by mrBadger
My thoughts exactly......but Farrow, how do you feel about gay marriages?
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I dont :) Im not getting back onto that because it will just end up in "Religion sucks!" "Any 'free thinking person would see that you are wrong' Which just isnt true.


Originally posted by urseus
Most people will say they have absolutly no problem with it.

However when you ask if its ok if its their daughter, the approval rate drops dramatically.

Im no exception unfortunatly. While being one of the most anti-racist people you could argue with, i stil have that attutude. But thats ok. The only ones i would have a real problem with would be arabs. Luckly they are slitting their own throats with the spate of gang rapes by lebanese fellows here in sydney. If i had a daughter they wouldnt stand within 100 feet of them.
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EDIT:I just asked what country you live in then noticed sydney so im guessing Australia
 
Im alright with gay marriages, I think their a little wierd but once again its their life not mine. I just hate how they keep on being so vocal about it, everyday is a story about how some gay couple is trying to fight to prove its okay for them to get married. They always end up kissing each other too which IMO is just not fun to watch.

Please no flamewars. :p
 
dw, Stone isn't around 2 flame you and I'm still recovering from last night (yes, a midweek party, thats us brits for you)....thats your opinion. There was a big scandal in the UK about a Bishop, or some church official who had been authorising same-sex marriages....I can't remember what happened to him...
 
I silenced him....uh i mean hes doing very well just. hes got a new house. Smaller, more body sized. Made of wood and buried under 6 foot of soil. :)


EDIT: After visiting San Francisco anything gay over here seems quite tame, even in the gay village in manchester. Over there, there were people walking around in in cowboy fishnet suits, with the seat of their pants cut out so you could see their fat arse waving about. It wasnt nice.
 
heh.....glad to see you can poke fun at your faith and the issues involved :)

EDIT: Ok, that is quite a stereotypical view of gay people.....however, I am talking about lesbians as well..... and I bet that most of you (Farrow excepted) would be like..... ooooo yes and drooling over the keyboard....
 
I don't want to insult anyone but the majority of "REAL" lesbians ive seen are not exactly... attractive. Most of them make themselves look like men. I have never seen any real lesbians that are as hot as those who get paid to be lesbians in porn.
 
Precisely.......it's just another way that male society presents women as toys and sex objects for our pleasure....
 
Ya the human society is REALLY screwed up. It was screwed up in the beggining and it will probably stay screwed up for many years to come. Men treating women as sex toys is simply one of the problems that we have had for the longest time and have still not been able to fix.
 
In my belief, each time we come close to recognising and neutralising a problem in the system, a new fault springs up...this doesn't mean we shouldn't attempt to fix what has been done...we should, and never give up hope that one day our society will truly accept all humanity for what they are.... one of the problems is that we live in a society where people are allowed to express their opinions....without persecution and we have fought wars to preserve that right, and it is great that we are allowed to say what is on our minds....however people are allowed to say stuff like "f**kin blacks!" and other similarily disgusting things.... and while it is racist... they are just expressing their views......bloody hell it's one hell of a dilemma
 
Yup.


On a similar note, on one hand women are viewed as 'sex toys' by many men. However because of Political correctness (Which i have said in another thread we are starting to realise to stupidity of) the middle class youngish white male is extremely confined in what they are allowed to do and say. Like women can make sexist remarks about. "Coloured" people are allowed to make racist remarks about white people. And so on. Now then like i said many people are abandoning P.C. because of its shear stupidity. Theres more that i haven't mentioned so don't think those are the only things I'm stuck up on.
However it appears that it is resurfacing under a new name. 'Multiculturalism'. We have to accept all cultures into our land (Thats ok) but promoting our own would be wrong. I can understand it if you visit some else's country, then you should respect their culture for what it is. But in my own country (England) i have to let all these people do what they want but I'm not allowed to.

The way i explained that isn't the best but i went to bed early this morning so I'm pretty tired.
 
Although that verges on Right Wing politics....I do understand what you say, people need to realise that the blade cuts both ways.... (if you get what i mean)
 
I honestly don't know..... too far either way makes a huge mess and both paths lead to the same end.

Yet, I believe I am a socialist.... despite being called part of the so-called elite.... I believe it is the workers who deserve more power.... how about you Farrow?
 
Im neither left nor right I'm forward:LOL:

Yes that was a poor attempt at humour.

I don't know to be honest. I'm not an extremist like a fascist or a communist or anything like that.
I don't think we should have a type of government with a committee, because it doesn't work. You need someone to have the final say. Thats why i think that Britain staying as a monarchy has kept this country great. (yes the queen doesn't exactly interfere but she does do alot for the country which is left out of the press)

You are certainly right about both paths leading to the same end. Take for instance, in WWII, the Nazis and communists, although hated each other were basically the same.

I think there is such think as allowing people to be too liberal. People demanding 'heir rights'. For instance in the US it is the right of the mother to have a partial birth abortion. Meaning that at 9 months when the baby is going to be born they say "I want it aborted" The doctor then shoves a whisk through the baby's skull as its coming out and turns its brain too mush. Now then how can that be the right of the mother when the baby is fully formed and is leaving the womb? Obviously people need to have rights, but it is definitely taken too far.

You can also be too conservative. Holding back progress because you stick to traditions that are outdated. Not all traditions are bad mind. And trying to advance society too fast often cause major problems.

You say that workers deserve more power. What do you mean by that? That they should rule? Wouldn't that would lead to them becoming 'the elite'?
Obviously people should have power and freedom. But too much and you breed a 'criminal' populace. take for instance not being able to smack children. That was a stupid move, parents should be able to punish their children when they do wrong. Otherwise they don't learn. talking to them isn't going to help because they aren't old enough to respond to that properly. Also they should bring back the cane in schools, because spending half an hour after school for doing wrong means nothing to the children, all it does is let them do their work with a teacher around to help.

Having said all that i still dont really know where i stand. im kind a seperate side really.
 
You zealots should be more tolerant of other people's views.

If someone disapproves of gay or interracial marriage, it's their business.

Stop crucifying people for their opinions, learn to be tolerant.

It is the 21st century.
 
What you said practically contradicts its self. You are asking us to be tolerant while at the same time saying that its ok to be intolerant.:dozey:

And another thing. People are saying "Ooh this is the 21st Century. Everything is done differently now"

It makes no difference what year it is. Just because we are in the 2000's right now doesn't mean that we should do everything differently.

EDIT: What exactly am I a zealot of anyway?
 
Originally posted by Farrowlesparrow
What you said practically contradicts its self. You are asking us to be tolerant while at the same time saying that its ok to be intolerant.:dozey:

And another thing. People are saying "Ooh this is the 21st Century. Everything is done differently now"

It makes no difference what year it is. Just because we are in the 2000's right now doesn't mean that we should do everything differently.

EDIT: What exactly am I a zealot of anyway?
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What is the definition of tolerance? --- To put up with something you disagree with, in order to avoid overt conflict.

You are talking about acceptance, and forcing people to accept something they disagree with.... well you know where that leads.
 
Originally posted by Farrowlesparrow

You say that workers deserve more power. What do you mean by that? That they should rule? Wouldn't that would lead to them becoming 'the elite'?
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No, because it the moment I feel that the common person's opinion is sometimes overruled. I don't want to create a 'worker's state' but I feel that the House of Commons should truly be the house of commons...

Originally posted by Farrowlesparrow
Obviously people should have power and freedom. But too much and you breed a 'criminal' populace. take for instance not being able to smack children. That was a stupid move, parents should be able to punish their children when they do wrong. Otherwise they don't learn. talking to them isn't going to help because they aren't old enough to respond to that properly. Also they should bring back the cane in schools, because spending half an hour after school for doing wrong means nothing to the children, all it does is let them do their work with a teacher around to help.
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I am sorry my learned friend but I beg to differ.... the banning of smacking has helped many children... it was being used as an excuse to abuse children is many cases. Do you want your child having memories of violence coming from you ? I mean seriously smacking teaches Nothing at all, except that violence is a valid form of communication....
 
What exactly do you mean by elite anyway?

My Dad hit me when i did wrong. I Love my dad and don't feel any resentment for him hitting me. I'm not talking about really walloping your children. But making sure they know they did wrong. Abuse still happens, even though smacking has been banned. That is why organisations such as the NSPCC are still around. The ban on smacking only stops parents who are law abiding from smacking, not abusive parents. It is the parents right to have authority over their child, not the governments. And when they go to school the parent gives some of that authority to the teacher. I wouldn't want anyone interfering in the way i bring up my child, because i know that if someone does wrong they have to be punished, otherwise how will they ever learn not to do it again? Its like a a cat. If you let it poo all over the place and don't do anything about it, it will keep on doing that. If people then tell it off later, it wont know why it is being punished and will just not like the person punishing.



Lord Blackadder there was obviously a misunderstanding. I am not forcing people to accept what i want them too, i am merely stating my opinion, which as you say I'm allowed to express. You say we are crucifying people for their opinions. Well it takes two to argue and like i said we are only explressing our opinions. Anyway i can see this thread slowly moving over to another, lets all bash religion.(Trust me it is, Ive seen it happen so many times before)
So i am going to stop commenting now unless there is something i feel i really need to say.
 
If I'm intolerant of intolerance, am I still tolerant, or am I intolerant?

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.
 
When I say elite...I mean those who have money and power.

Violence breeds violence, nothing more.... It is NOT a valid form of communication.... Farrow, you can have authority over your child without using force as a means of teaching. To use your example, when a cat poos everywhere, you make them sniff it....to teach them not to do it again, this is the same as manking a child say sorry and apologising, kicking the cat up and down teh road is the same as smacking a child.
 
Just because someone doesn't have any money doesn't make them good at ruling the country. That was a pretty blunt way of putting it but I'm sick of typing today.

Violence does not breed violence. I am not a violent person. my dad is not a violent person. But he still smacked me when i was naughty. Only violence without an end breeds more violence. When you don't punish a child they don't realise that what they have done is bad. I'm not saying that smacking is the only way to teach them, I'm saying that it is needed. Just a slap on the bum is enough. Otherwise they get to an age where it no longer does any good, and because they haven't been punished in a way that will teach them anything, talking to them wont do any good. Anyway thats my last comment in this thread today, because Ive taxed my brain to much with work at college, so I'm finding it hard to really get across what i want to.

yes i realise before i said i wasn't going to comment, but i felt i had to say this.
 
Intolerance toward people who physically discipline their children.

What's next, quarantine against people who smoke? Oh never mind.
 
Originally posted by The Mullinator
I don't want to insult anyone but the majority of "REAL" lesbians ive seen are not exactly... attractive. Most of them make themselves look like men. I have never seen any real lesbians that are as hot as those who get paid to be lesbians in porn.
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The only people who reject society are those who society has rejected.

Translation: Ugly fat chicks become lesbians because they are angry that attractive women get ahead in life. Noone who society embraces is pissed off about it. Hot chicks dont campagn for bigger models on the catwalk, but neither would the fat chick crying in the mirror if she was attractive.

Women want to be oogled at. That is the level they have "risen" to now thanks to their equality stuff. You only have to look at how young they start out, they advertised g-strings in 8 year old sizes the other day. Women dress to be slutty at partys. They cheat on boyfriends and play the field. They get drunk and easy much much more now. Im not complaining, just funny that they reached equality, then it lasted for a very short while, then completly overshot the mark and went back to what took decades to acheive.

Originally posted by mrBadger
I am sorry my learned friend but I beg to differ.... the banning of smacking has helped many children... it was being used as an excuse to abuse children is many cases. Do you want your child having memories of violence coming from you ? I mean seriously smacking teaches Nothing at all, except that violence is a valid form of communication....
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Bs.

Hitting a child is neccisary. You cant reason with a 2 year old. Ive seen what its like, my cousins parents raising their children, with no hitting hippy stuff. They are completly wild, swear more than i do, and are violent and rude. The most common comment about them is "somone needs to give those kids a kick up the ass"

When i was young and did something wrong, id get a smack on the ass or a rap across the back of the legs with a wooden spoon. Good. Im glad i got hit. If my mum tryed to pull some passive shit on me i would have just walked all over her at that age, and i would have grown up into some reject, getting quite larger hits from strangers later in life no doubt. Do i intend to smack my child upside the head if he does something stupid? You betcha.
 
Originally posted by urseus
Women want to be oogled at.
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what the f*ck are you on about, thats a totally sweeping statement.... on what do you base that opinion, what evidence.... I know many girls who don't like being perved over, and they far outnumber those who do.... what kind of a attitude is that? I don't mean to insult you, but how many women have you been with?

Originally posted by urseus
Hitting a child is neccisary. You cant reason with a 2 year old.
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NO WAY is that right, Farrow I'm sure that you are a well balenced indevidual, but I very much doubt smacking helps anything. I wasn't smacked as a child.....and people commented on how well behaved I was when I was little... so there, your argument falls down....but so does mine... our opinions will clash for many more posts methinks...
 
Originally posted by nietzsche
If the intention is to make a child learn a certain behaviour, punishment by causing (severe) physical pain is the easiest and most unintelligent way parents come up with, while raising a child.

Now i'm gonna teach parents a certain behaviour, by repetitive application of physical punishment. Where's my leather whip? :devil:
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I knew you were into German S&M.

I know you don't want me to keep quoting you but damn, how can I not?:cheese:
 
Originally posted by mrBadger

NO WAY is that right, Farrow I'm sure that you are a well balenced indevidual, but I very much doubt smacking helps anything. I wasn't smacked as a child.....and people commented on how well behaved I was when I was little... so there, your argument falls down....but so does mine... our opinions will clash for many more posts methinks...
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As anyone who knows women will tell you, most women, most of the time, like attention.

Ogled might be a risky proposition, but many women often prefer ogling to being ignored.

It's really a matter of degree, and familiarity. Women are complex creatures, but you don't want to listen to what they say, instead watch what they do.:thumbs:
 
Originally posted by nietzsche
sets Lordblackadder's hick-trailer on fire... :devil:
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OK, just so you know, I am kidding. I have a bit of an abrasive sense of humor, but I'm certainly not trying to insult you.

Just read my posts with a Rowan Atkinson voice, and you'll understand what I'm saying.

:cheers: :cheese:
 
Originally posted by nietzsche
Oy, i know sweetheart. Sometimes it's hard to get one's humor across the internet.

Can i whip you know?

:cheers: :cheese:
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Oh okay. Can I lick your jackboots?:p
 
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