who would win?

who'd win in a battle/war?

  • The combine

    Votes: 50 86.2%

  • Covenant forces

    Votes: 8 13.8%
  • Total voters
    58
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I was just wondering who'd win in a battle between, the Halo universe ( the enemy's in that) and the half-life series, the combine and such.
 
Combine.

Covenant have been extensively revealed in Halo2, and that appears to be the extent of their forces. Combine are probably relatively infinite...?

Thing is rendundant, though, cos it'd never happen. It's like bloody Master Chief vs. Freeman threads.
 
The combine are a vast interstellar empire with billions of worlds and hundreds of universes nuder their dominion. They have many super-soldiers formed thanks to their dabbling in genetics.
The Covenant are a group of religous fanatics formed of 8 (including engieneers) races that hold a few measly worlds in one galaxy. Not only that, teh Combine ownd us in 7-hours, the Covenant are still trying.

Combine, obviously.
 
Seeing as one operates only in one universe and the other in many, the Combine a disctict advantage of having far more land a resources available to them.
 
What are we talking about here? Covenant hand weapons are much superior to anything the Combine fields (barring magic orbs) and their ships, can, you know, melt planets.
 
Narvi said:
What are we talking about here? Covenant hand weapons are much superior to anything the Combine fields (barring magic orbs) and their ships, can, you know, melt planets.
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Er, the Covenant hand weapons are superior to strider and gunship machine-guns and cannons?
 
And remember: Combine forces encountered in HL2 are literally the tip of the vast inter-dimensional iceberg, whereas Covenant forces in Halo 2 look relatively... small.
 
Plus, the Covenant are clearly humans in suits. I mean, against all odds, all of the races of the covenant (save the engineers and prophets) have somehow evolved two eyes, two legs, two arms, two ears, and a similar torso shape, adnd their humanoid. So against all odds, they have evolved a similar anatomy not only to themselves, but humans even though they are all different species. Not only that, teh covenant somehow broke the very laws of physics and can travel at the speed of light.
Then again, I'm wrong. The covenant would win easily. The crappy dialogue they say would be enough to make even the Combine surrender..

Narvi said:
What are we talking about here? Covenant hand weapons are much superior to anything the Combine fields (barring magic orbs) and their ships, can, you know, melt planets.
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The Combine probaoly could, but they smarter than teh covenant. Y'see, while the covenant burn planets, the Combine use them.
 
The covenant are as colourful as a pride parade. They're the highest visibility intergalatic menace since Barbie launched in her automated Matel death-fortress.
 
Just for the sake of keeping this interesting i'll argue for teh poor poor Covies,

First off, Hunters: They're armor and shield protects all their vitals, and makes them near indestructable. Since the Striders shoot from high angle, they wouldn't be able to hit them in they're vunerable spots unless they got them from behind. . and striders just aren't very sneaky in that case. . .
Secondly: Active camoflage, this stuff is pretty hard to fight against, especially in low lighting conditions. . . i don't think the combine have anything like this. I know this isn't exactly an uber weapon, but it gave me a hard time more than once.
Another thing: sniper rifles, as far as i know and remeber, the combine don't really have a weapon that can compete with the range of the Covie sniper rifle. Also, Elites have regenerative energy shields, allowing them to take direct fire, sit down, and recoup from the damage. A skilled elite (a la legendary mode) can use the shield to their advantage for painful comebacks. Covenant also have the brutes at their disposal, and these guys could easily rip the arms off a metro cop, without a second thought.
and lastly, the glassing technique. If they start getting owned, turn the planet into one big orb of burning sand. I'm pretty sure the Combine's would have a bit of a hard time with that.
But as someone else mentioned, the Combine's true forces haven't been revealed so this is a hard call to make. . .oh, and they're from completely different games too.
 
Ok, first, strider would crush hunters by impaling them with a ****ing 50 foot leg. Second, they have their blast cannons that rip through ANYTHING and discinigrate every living matter.

Second, Active camo? heard of thermal?

Combine sniper rifle is obiously far superior, but its two diff games, cant compare that, so ill just say those shields would break under any awesome cannon fire from a strider or a gunship. Also, metro cops are humans, they are not combines.
 
ktimekiller said:
Second, Active camo? heard of thermal?
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Heard of full spectrum active camouflage?:laugh: (meaning you wouldn't be able to detect it with anything: radar, thermal etc...)

However that's something they don't have heh:E
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
Plus, the Covenant are clearly humans in suits. I mean, against all odds, all of the races of the covenant (save the engineers and prophets) have somehow evolved two eyes, two legs, two arms, two ears, and a similar torso shape, adnd their humanoid. So against all odds, they have evolved a similar anatomy not only to themselves, but humans even though they are all different species.
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Pressumably we're all decendants of the Forerunners, who built the Halos.


Also, some of your (not refering to Piggy, just people in general in this thread) arguements a tad silly. You're only comparing basic ground troops while ignoring everything else. Perhaps a hunter can beat a stider, but what about the fact that the Combine posses the ablitly to lay down a sneak attack and deploy huge forces anywhere in a given unvierse? And maybe the Covenant couldn't bring about a very successful assault on a citadel with wraiths and banshees but what about their giantic spaceships?

Edit:
Also, the Combine could never be destroyed by the Covenant considering their current technology. The Covenant could trounce the Combine in their universe, but would never be able to take them on in any others.
 
ringworld was one of the worst book ive read EVER.

It started out as a decent novel an went down hill from book number 2 to book number, what was it, 5? ****!
 
ktimekiller said:
ringworld was one of the worst book ive read EVER.

It started out as a decent novel an went down hill from book number 2 to book number, what was it, 5? ****!
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All sci-fi series do that. Dune springs to mind.
 
riomhaire said:
Er, the Covenant hand weapons are superior to strider and gunship machine-guns and cannons?
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I phrased that badly. What I meant was the combine hand weapons are outclassed by covenant hand weapons. Armor melting plasma FTW.

And besides, you're overclassing the Combine. All we have ever seen them do is overwhelm the military of one world. Then we have their word that they command a massive interdimensional empire. (Which, incidentally, I don't doubt.) But that argument is simply 'they outnumber the covvies lol'. We don't know how big the empire is, after all.

If we want to match them vehicle to vehicle, note that a wraith can take down a tank in one shot, and does not have to charge that shot up as a strider does. I'm going to give the gunship versus banshee to the gunship, as it can survive a few rockets, and its chaingun should easily shoot the banshee down.

We don't even know whether the combine have any space presence. If the covenant lose a planet via citadel drop, they can easily glass it from orbit.

Note that we haven't seen the vast majority of the combine war machine: we haven't seen their artillery, their air force or their navy, and many bits of the army are incomplete, so it is rather biased against the more well-rounded Covenant armies.
 
Narvi said:
I phrased that badly. What I meant was the combine hand weapons are outclassed by covenant hand weapons. Armor melting plasma FTW.

And besides, you're overclassing the Combine. All we have ever seen them do is overwhelm the military of one world. Then we have their word that they command a massive interdimensional empire. (Which, incidentally, I don't doubt.) But that argument is simply 'they outnumber the covvies lol'. We don't know how big the empire is, after all.

If we want to match them vehicle to vehicle, note that a wraith can take down a tank in one shot, and does not have to charge that shot up as a strider does. I'm going to give the gunship versus banshee to the gunship, as it can survive a few rockets, and its chaingun should easily shoot the banshee down.

We don't even know whether the combine have any space presence. If the covenant lose a planet via citadel drop, they can easily glass it from orbit.

Note that we haven't seen the vast majority of the combine war machine: we haven't seen their artillery, their air force or their navy, and many bits of the army are incomplete, so it is rather biased against the more well-rounded Covenant armies.
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On plasma weapons:
They seem to be much more effective at taking out plasma shields than a hard target, which the Combine don't even use.
Also, I never said anything about numbers. I just said that the possible territories that the Combine have available to them is much larger.
 
Why is it That I knew it was either "Gordon VS MC" or "Rebels vs Marines" or "Combine vs covenent"

*combine btw...much more sofisticated.*
 
SHUT UP COR...I mean HIGHLANDER

Learn grammer skillz.

Combine, they'd assimilate the Covenant forces and use them as weapons.
 
*Walks into thread*
*Looks at all this bullshit*

WRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!
 
kupoartist said:
All sci-fi series do that. Dune springs to mind.
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Lies and deceit. Frank Herbert wrote the first one, none of the others were by him so i fail to accept them as true sequels.

Also, saga of seven suns, each book in the series was better than the last.
 
The answer is simple:the Combine will win because they are better.

DUH. :afro:
 
Atomic_Piggy said:
The combine are a vast interstellar empire with billions of worlds and hundreds of universes nuder their dominion. They have many super-soldiers formed thanks to their dabbling in genetics.
The Covenant are a group of religous fanatics formed of 8 (including engieneers) races that hold a few measly worlds in one galaxy. Not only that, teh Combine ownd us in 7-hours, the Covenant are still trying.

Combine, obviously.
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qft.
 
I still state that on principle, a pack of fruit pastels shouldn't be able to defeat anything.
 
combine: manhacks
convenatnt: GRUNTS!!!!

actually, i think that thre would be a draw, and then the flood and the headcrab zombies would team up and RULE THE UNIVERSE!!!

then they would eat each other.
 
I don't even need to explain why the Combine would win. It's so damn obvious. Ok, fine.

-Sheer numbers.
-More resources.
-Teleportation capabilities. Although, I didn't play Halo enough to know if the Covenant has the ability to teleport. I know, I fail.
-Integration of not only biological matter but also mechanics/electronics, meaning that, in all actuality; given the resources which the Combine have, can pull soldiers with the reflexes of a computer right out of their ass.

Also, please excuse me for reiterating the first two advantages in my list. I might just provide the pros and cons of the Combine in comparison to the Covenant. Although it might not be worth it since you could have an Elite-Elite comparison which could be topped off with a Hunter-Strider comparison which could then be topped off with a city-wide scale weapon-city-wide scale weapon comparison which could be topped off with a super weapon-super weapon-- you get the idea.

If you think about it in a certain way, it almost boils down to who has better hacks.
 
The Combine would lose in a ground war. Unless you're one of the few who think that Overwatch soldiers were deliberately underpowered so you wouldn't have to waste entire magazines on human enemies like in the first game, then their infantry plainly suck, especially if they can have their collective arse handed to them by a bunch of angry humans with no combat experience whatsoever. On the other hand, you have the Sangheili elites, who have plasma swords, passive energy shielding, stealth and all manner of multi-purpose weaponry.

Of course, the second the Covenant activate the Halos, then all involved parties are screwed.

EDIT:

Looking at it that way, the Combine could simply sweep in and take an empty universe for themselves.
 
Fadeaway said:
especially if they can have their collective arse handed to them by a bunch of angry humans with no combat experience whatsoever.
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...But they have Gordon Freeman... It's The One Free Man, God damnit!
 
Fadeaway said:
The Combine would lose in a ground war. Unless you're one of the few who think that Overwatch soldiers were deliberately underpowered so you wouldn't have to waste entire magazines on human enemies like in the first game, then their infantry plainly suck, especially if they can have their collective arse handed to them by a bunch of angry humans with no combat experience whatsoever. On the other hand, you have the Sangheili elites, who have plasma swords, passive energy shielding, stealth and all manner of multi-purpose weaponry.

Of course, the second the Covenant activate the Halos, then all involved parties are screwed.

EDIT:

Looking at it that way, the Combine could simply sweep in and take an empty universe for themselves.
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Halos destroy one universe. Combine are multi-universe!
 
Bah, I loathe the numbers argument. First of all, we have no idea to the extent of the Combine nation, so it's basically saying 'bigger lol lol'.

Secondly, it's like saying that an infinite number of chimps can take on Godzilla.
 
Fadeaway said:
The Combine would lose in a ground war. Unless you're one of the few who think that Overwatch soldiers were deliberately underpowered so you wouldn't have to waste entire magazines on human enemies like in the first game, then their infantry plainly suck, especially if they can have their collective arse handed to them by a bunch of angry humans with no combat experience whatsoever. On the other hand, you have the Sangheili elites, who have plasma swords, passive energy shielding, stealth and all manner of multi-purpose weaponry.

Of course, the second the Covenant activate the Halos, then all involved parties are screwed.

EDIT:

Looking at it that way, the Combine could simply sweep in and take an empty universe for themselves.
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And then on the other hand you have millions of super-soldiers we haven't even seen yet. The overwatch are just a small portion, Earth is just an outpost in our universe. How would station their whole force at an outpost? We ain't seen nothing about the Combine yet. Besides, the covenant would destory each other over religon. We all know Osama Bin Laden is their leader... D:
 
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