50 Most Loathsome People in America, 2007

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41. Chuck Norris

Charges: Only famous for knowing Bruce Lee. Churning out puerile "action" bilge for 30 years. Skill as martial artist greatly exaggerated. Kitsch value wearing thin. Total Home Gym?. Walker, Texas Ranger once let a little girl battle armed gangsters, because she had the power of belief in God. Doesn't understand evolution, despite access to mirrors.

Exhibit A: Campaigning for Mike Huckabee.

Sentence: Roundhouse kick from Charles Darwin.


36. Master Chief

Charges: Unquestioning cybernetic super soldier of Halo 3's futuristic virtual dystopia; lacks free will and a face. Feature article treating him as a cultural phenomenon in Time magazine marked a low point for both franchises. Stupid name.

Exhibit A: Joint-marketed with Mountain Dew "Game Fuel" in a major coup for diabetes industry.

Sentence: Stop loss, a tour in Iraq.


9. You

Charges: You believe in freedom of speech, until someone says something that offends you. You suddenly give a damn about border integrity, because the automated voice system at your pharmacy asked you to press 9 for Spanish. You cling to every scrap of bullshit you can find to support your ludicrous belief system, and reject all empirical evidence to the contrary. You know the difference between patriotism and nationalism -- it's nationalism when foreigners do it. You hate anyone who seems smarter than you. You care more about zygotes than actual people. You love to blame people for their misfortunes, even if it means screwing yourself over. You still think Republicans favor limited government. Your knowledge of politics and government are dwarfed by your concern for Britney Spears' children. You think buying Chinese goods stimulates our economy. You think you're going to get universal health care. You tolerate the phrase "enhanced interrogation techniques." You think the government is actually trying to improve education. You think watching CNN makes you smarter. You think two parties is enough. You can't spell. You think $9 trillion in debt is manageable. You believe in an afterlife for the sole reason that you don't want to die. You think lowering taxes raises revenue. You think the economy's doing well. You're an idiot.

Exhibit A: You couldn't get enough Anna Nicole Smith coverage.

Sentence: A gradual decline into abject poverty as you continue to vote against your own self-interest. Death by an easily treated disorder that your health insurance doesn't cover. You deserve it, chump.


1. George W. Bush

Charges: Is it a civil rights milestone to have a retarded president? Maybe it would be, if he were ever legitimately elected. You can practically hear the whole nation holding its breath, hoping this guy will just ****ing leave come January '09 and not declare martial law. Only supporters left are the ones who would worship a ****ing turnip if it promised to kill foreigners. Is so clearly not in charge of his own White House that his feeble attempts to define himself as "decider" or "commander guy" are the equivalent of a five-year-old kid sitting on his dad's Harley and saying "vroom vroom!" Has lost so many disgusted staffers that all he's left with are the kids from Jesus Camp. The first president who is so visibly stupid he can say "I didn't know what was in the National Intelligence Estimate until last week" and sound plausible. Inarguably a major criminal and a much greater threat to the future of America than any Muslim terrorist.

Exhibit A: "And there is distrust in Washington. I am surprised, frankly, at the amount of distrust that exists in this town. And I'm sorry it's the case, and I'll work hard to try to elevate it."

Sentence: Dismembered, limbs donated to injured veterans.



I like this line from #2

2. Dick Cheney

Charges: Worst president ever.

lol


http://www.buffalobeast.com/122/50mostloathsome2007.html
 
I dont think master chief actually set foot in America in any of the halo games....or am i wrong?

:)
 
About George Bush, I saw his daughter on Jay Leno the other day and she seemed smart. So surely he can't be as stupid as we make him out to be.
(Still pretty stupid though)
 
32. The Founding Fathers

Charges: Lionized as moral pillars and demigods ad nauseam without the slightest hint of irony. Can't be judged by today's standards. Electoral College? Dumb ****ing idea. Invoked by every asshole in the last two hundred years to support every stupid idea ever. The original liberal elite. Able to withstand lightning strikes and the British military; unable to fathom poor people voting.

Exhibit A: Owned wigs, Africans.

Sentence: Depicted as cartoons on rapidly devaluing currency; beaten at effective democracy by former monarchies.

Heh :)

Pity people don't generally recognise Craig Ventner as being a ****, would have liked a writeup for him.
 
And this is any less inane and derivative than the crap Nemesis posts because...?
 
... A: it's funny

Apparently it's only funny when America is in the firing line. Not to mention that the article is clearly written by leftist mongs, the many bleeding heart morons of the USA being notable by their absence.
 
Really? I'd laugh just as much at something similar done for Blair, Brown, Kim Jong, whatever...
I don't really care if it's clearly biased, it was well done and entertaining. Reminded me of Yahtzee's reviews, which by definition is a good thing.
 
we get it, people dont like america
 
Really? I'd laugh just as much at something similar done for Blair, Brown, Kim Jong, whatever...
I don't really care if it's clearly biased, it was well done and entertaining.

If the article focused on equally valid criticism of people like Jesse Jackson, Cindy Sheehan and Al Gore, you can be sure it wouldn't receive the same reception here.
 
23. Bill O'Reilly

Charges: If judgmentalism were sugar, anyone in the same city as this paragon of intellectual overconfidence would lose their teeth within five minutes. O'Reilly is everything that's wrong with America: Won't ever admit he was wrong about anything (and will lie repeatedly rather than correct himself), accuses all who disagree with him of treason or insanity, attacks all who criticize him, and glories in his own troglodytic bluster. Anoints himself an authority on morals, despite common knowledge that he is a sexual harasser. Pretends to be an "independent" who just happens to look, sound, and act exactly like a Republican. Hasn't engaged in a valid exchange of ideas in his entire career, because he knows he'd be crushed in seconds by an average college freshman. O'Reilly wins by interrupting, shouting, and if all else fails, cutting off his opponent's microphone. A tiny, scared child of a man.

Exhibit A: "And this is what white America doesn't know, particularly people who don't have a lot of interaction with black Americans. They think that the culture is dominated by Twista, Ludacris, and Snoop Dogg." Gee Bill, where would they get that idea?

Sentence: Marinated, barbecued, and served at Sylvia's restaurant in Harlem, where the blacks eat just like real people.

I rofl'd so damn hard.
 
Apparently it's only funny when America is in the firing line. Not to mention that the article is clearly written by leftist mongs, the many bleeding heart morons of the USA being notable by their absence.


written by an american for americans AND they describe themselves as left-libertarian

The Beast is a Buffalo, New York left-libertarian biweekly newspaper founded by Matt Taibbi and Kevin McElwee in 2002. Buffalo attorney Paul Fallon was instrumental in bringing the necessary resources together, and has been the Publisher of the newspaper since the beginning.


..what's your point? ..should we only post articles entitled "50 most well liked people in america"? and as to Nemesis' threads ..I at least post more than just threads on america, I dont limit myself to one section/topic like he does

oh and stereotyping whole segments of a population as "bleeding heart " isnt being very accurate ..youmake it sound like they're all a bunch of panty waist ninnies scared of their own shadow which is laughably absurd ..for starters I know of quite a few "bleeding heart liberals" that would mop the floor with you within seconds ..dont mistake actually giving a shit about anyone else but yourself as a sign of weakness ..like all political ideologies it attracts people from all walks of life ..not just people too scared to do anything but bleat





but thanks for your contribution to this thread ..incidentily what part did you read/take issue with? cuz it's not all politics now is it? or havent you gotten to that part yet? quick read every entry before reponding so as to insure you have a well balanced response
 
If the article focused on equally valid criticism of people like Jesse Jackson, Cindy Sheehan and Al Gore, you can be sure it wouldn't receive the same reception here.

What exactly did Jesse Jackson, Cindy Sheehan, and Al Gore do?

LOL @ The bleeding heart bullshit, please keep your ultra-right wing horse shit out of America, and stay in the UK please, we already have Tony Blankly.
 
If the article focused on equally valid criticism of people like Jesse Jackson, Cindy Sheehan and Al Gore, you can be sure it wouldn't receive the same reception here.

Meh, if it was as well done I'd still like it. I have healthy skepticism and cynicism about all politicians.
 
written by an american for americans AND they describe themselves as left-libertarian

You mean how Bill O'Reilly describes himself as an independent?

..what's your point? ..should we only post articles entitled "50 most well liked people in america"? and as to Nemesis' threads ..I at least post more than just threads on america, I dont limit myself to one section/topic like he does

Post whatever you want, but it's garbage just the same as the stuff you complain about on here so it makes you look a bit hypocritical. A true "left-libertarian" would be more concerned with race-baiters, hate crime legislation and gun control proponents then they are about talk show hosts.
Both "sides" are morally bankrupt ****tards, they just have slightly different opinions on exactly how the state should control and repress its citizens. It's like identical twin five year olds calling each other names.

oh and stereotyping whole segments of a population as "bleeding heart " isnt being very accurate ..youmake it sound like they're all a bunch of panty waist ninnies scared of their own shadow which is laughably absurd ..for starters I know of quite a few "bleeding heart liberals" that would mop the floor with you within seconds ..dont mistake actually giving a shit about anyone else but yourself as a sign of weakness ..like all political ideologies it attracts people from all walks of life ..not just people too scared to do anything but bleat

My own observations indicate that uber-liberals are the most selfish of all people - they just like to make themselves feel better by pretending to care. Terribly naive to boot, and most people who have ever actually faced any real hardship themselves know that socialism and all the bullshit it entails like affirmative action is a crock of shite.
By the same token, isn't claiming that anyone who isn't a bleeding heart only cares about themselves stereotyping most of the human race? :rolleyes:

but thanks for your contribution to this thread ..incidentily what part did you read/take issue with? cuz it's not all politics now is it? or havent you gotten to that part yet? quick read every entry before reponding so as to insure you have a well balanced response

I take issue with the hypocrisy of posting it and the fact that it's nothing more than a cheap shot at the right. You know, because anyone who isn't a naive leftie is clearly a loathsome moron. Not that the article says that, but clearly implies it. Ironically by many indications, neocons are actually leftist themselves...
 
What exactly did Jesse Jackson, Cindy Sheehan, and Al Gore do?

Jesse Jackson is a racist piece of shit who makes a living from inventing discrimination where none ever actually existed.
Cindy Sheehan is an opportunist media whore who uses the memory of her son to further her own bullshit agenda.
Al Gore is a hypocritical the-world-is-coming-to-an-end bullshitter, who won a nobel prize for a scaremongering "documentary" that actually contains nine scientific errors.

LOL @ The bleeding heart bullshit, please keep your ultra-right wing horse shit out of America, and stay in the UK please, we already have Tony Blankly.

Ultra right-wing? :LOL:
You're a moron.
 
socialism and all the bullshit it entails like affirmative action is a crock of shite.

Don't go overboard. There are good aspects to socialism, in moderation. Like education or healthcare.
I remember about your accident and how it ****ed a lot of thing up for you: how much more screwed would you be if the UK had a healthcare system like the USA does?
 
13. Anne Coulter

Charges: A skeletal freak who hates the world and lives to anger people into buying her books. Says Jews need to be "perfected," as if Christians are in better shape. Is against her own right to vote. Called John Edwards a ******, when really he's just a little swishy. Is about as sexy as a praying mantis. If Coulter were a man, she'd never be allowed on TV.

Exhibit A: "****** isn't offensive to gays; it's got nothing to do with gays."

Sentence: Forced marriage to Osama bin Laden.

:LOL:

RepiV, its just a joke. If someone made one of these things about britain I wouldn't care.
 
Don't go overboard. There are good aspects to socialism, in moderation. Like education or healthcare.
I remember about your accident and how it ****ed a lot of thing up for you: how much more screwed would you be if the UK had a healthcare system like the USA does?

You're absolutely right. But it's very difficult to summarise what I'm talking about without simply using a term like "socialism".
My problem is not so much with state-funded services, but with the attitude that a lot of "socialists" have. You know - the world owes me a living, the rich white man is always wrong, the state should have the power to tell you how to live your life, etc.
I'm sick of pious wankers who look down their nose at anyone who chooses to drive a big car, or engage in motorsport, or do something without having a health and safety advisor do a risk assessment first. As if we don't live overly regulated, soulless enough lives already.
I don't make any judgements on how anyone else should live their lives, and I expect the same in return.

Although the state-funded services are still shit. I applied for income support and incapacity benefit in October and my claim is still being ****ing processed. In the meantime, I've got 40p left on my overdraft and all my credit cards have been cancelled and they won't help me with access to work because my disability is only temporary. I pay huge taxes for this shit? Makes me mad.
 
Heh. Whining to be sure, but better then the typical whinge.
 
You mean how Bill O'Reilly describes himself as an independent?

and? who cares ..it's an opinion piece ..any half wit can see that



Post whatever you want, but it's garbage just the same as the stuff you complain about on here so it makes you look a bit hypocritical.

no, it does not, I complain that's always the same, that's ALL he ever posts

A true "left-libertarian" would be more concerned with race-baiters, hate crime legislation and gun control proponents then they are about talk show hosts.

and these are all people that can be rightfully described as the "50 most loathsome people in america"? I'm not sure who Hate Crime Legislation is, can you post a photo?


Both "sides" are morally bankrupt ****tards, they just have slightly different opinions on exactly how the state should control and repress its citizens. It's like identical twin five year olds calling each other names.

how is that different than political parties in general?



My own observations indicate that uber-liberals are the most selfish of all people - they just like to make themselves feel better by pretending to care.

yes because everyone can be boiled down to a few points without error ..I mean, armed with a list of these liberal-weenie attributes you'd be able to pick me from a crowd? ...you should be able to, we all look alike anyways

Terribly naive to boot,

i'm sorry but conservatism is almost synonomous with blue collared boobs who mistake Iran for australia ...btw ALL conservatives are like that ..down to the last man woman or child ..blue collared boobs, every last one of them ..oh and thay all own guns/recognise texas as a separate country

and most people who have ever actually faced any real hardship themselves know that socialism and all the bullshit it entails like affirmative action is a crock of shite.

yes I'm sure you're just cursing the fact that you dont have to pony up $40,000 for your stay at the hospital ..."goddam socialised healthcare, if only I could pay my fair share"


By the same token, isn't claiming that anyone who isn't a bleeding heart only cares about themselves stereotyping most of the human race? :rolleyes:

this statement hurts my brain ....what?



I take issue with the hypocrisy of posting it and the fact that it's nothing more than a cheap shot at the right.

specifically the entries on Master Chief, or Britney Spears or Hugh Hefner? ****ing right wiongers ...they should shoot ultra conservative Spears for showing her coochie on camera

You know, because anyone who isn't a naive leftie is clearly a loathsome moron. Not that the article says that, but clearly implies it. Ironically by many indications, neocons are actually leftist themselves...

so how did you determine that Britney spears is a righty? I mean this is as close as I've ever heard her being political ...so if true you should also add "hopelessly stupid" because the very fact that she's on this list MUST mean that she accurately represents ALL righties ........right?



anyways, once again repiv you shoot the messager and ignore the message ...can you for the love of god remain on topic instead of turning this into a debate about socialism ..I couldnt care less, start your own thread if you must
 
Lacks Al Gore, still, it got a few internal laughs from me. Not a bad article on the whole. A few other notables missing, but I guess that's what you get when you're reading an opinion piece.
 
Apparently it's only funny when America is in the firing line. Not to mention that the article is clearly written by leftist mongs, the many bleeding heart morons of the USA being notable by their absence.
Wow. Just wow. "Oh noes the leftists are hurting mah country!!"
 
and? who cares ..it's an opinion piece ..any half wit can see that

Yes but if it was a similarly written opinion piece against, say, Muslims, you'd be up in arms about it.

no, it does not, I complain that's always the same, that's ALL he ever posts

Fair enough.

and these are all people that can be rightfully described as the "50 most loathsome people in america"? I'm not sure who Hate Crime Legislation is, can you post a photo?

You miss the point.

how is that different than political parties in general?

It isn't - but many seem to be under the impression that OBAMA TEH SON OF GOD shall save us all. And follow the church of Al Gore as blindly as any Christian.
Gullible, weak-minded muppets.

yes because everyone can be boiled down to a few points without error ..I mean, armed with a list of these liberal-weenie attributes you'd be able to pick me from a crowd? ...you should be able to, we all look alike anyways



i'm sorry but conservatism is almost synonomous with blue collared boobs who think Iran is actually australia ...btw ALL conservatives are like that ..down to the last man woman or child ..blue collared boobs, every last one of them ..oh and thay all own guns/recognise texas as a separate country

No...neo-conservatism is. The Bush administration has much more in common with liberalism than it does with conservatism. Likewise, the current Labour government in the UK is as authoritarian and nanny-state as they come - honestly not too different from the "apparently" right-wing US government, yet it's full of former communists.
There are just as many pig-ignorant "liberals" as there are "conservatives" - they're just ignorant in a different way.

yes I'm sure you're just cursing the fact that you dont have to pony up $40,000 for your stay at the hospital ..."goddam socialised healthcare, if only I could pay my fair share"

And that has what to do with the overt redistribution of wealth and social engineering?

this statement hurts my brain ....what?

You implied that only uber-liberals care about anyone except themselves.

specifically the entries on Master Chief, or Britney Spears or Hugh Hefner? ****ing right wiongers ...they should shoot ultra conservative Spears for showing her coochie on camera

And which of those are political figures? How many of the political figures there are liberal idols?
 
Yes but if it was a similarly written opinion piece against, say, Muslims, you'd be up in arms about it.

and you know this to be 100% true ..I mean, i dont know how I'd react how is it you do? how does that work? I mean how is it that you know without a shadow of a doubt that's how I would react? I mean all you know about me is exclusively in text ..you cant possibly argue that that is the totality of my personality ...that would be silly


You miss the point.

no, I dont miss the point: it's an OPINION piece, it's the 50 most loathsome people according to the person who wrote it



It isn't - but many seem to be under the impression that OBAMA TEH SON OF GOD shall save us all. And follow the church of Al Gore as blindly as any Christian.
Gullible, weak-minded muppets.

you mean like how over 80% of US soldiers stationed in iraq as of jan 2006 believed despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary that Saddam was behind 9/11? or how despite the hell-on-earth in Iraq some americans still support bush's decsion to invade iraq? ..funny how you gloss over all those that still support the president despite the fact that he openly lied to americans? or how people blindly vote for a republican just because they're not a democrat? I mean if you followed the election of 2004 you'd think the issues were: politicians wearing makeup and who has a purple heart and who's daddy paid to insure the candiadate would never recieve a purple heart? ...you do realise this is america they're talking about? partisan support is a specatator sport south the 49th parallel



No...neo-conservatism is. The Bush administration has much more in common with liberalism than it does with conservatism. Likewise, the current Labour government in the UK is as authoritarian and nanny-state as they come - honestly not too different from the "apparently" right-wing US government, yet it's full of former communists.
There are just as many pig-ignorant "liberals" as there are "conservatives" - they're just ignorant in a different way.

I detest political labels ..and really this article isnt about neo-conservatism or whether the UK is authotarian ..frankly i couldnt care less what label anyone wants to label them with



And that has what to do with the overt redistribution of wealth and social engineering?

you tell me, you're the one who thinks socialists are socialists because they havent endured any real hardship



You implied that only uber-liberals care about anyone except themselves.

how so? point to where I imply this

And which of those are political figures? How many of the political figures there are liberal idols?

and where does it say "the 50 most loathsome POLITICAL people in america"? the fact that it doesnt pick on "liberal-weenies" is something you should take up with the author, not me
 
Lenin endured lots of hardship. As did Robert Tressel.

I think very very few people in the UK right now have lived lives comparably worse to your average working man 150years ago.
 
Jesse Jackson is a racist piece of shit who makes a living from inventing discrimination where none ever actually existed.
Cindy Sheehan is an opportunist media whore who uses the memory of her son to further her own bullshit agenda.
Al Gore is a hypocritical the-world-is-coming-to-an-end bullshitter, who won a nobel prize for a scaremongering "documentary" that actually contains nine scientific errors.

Modern liberalism (allegedly) desires a high level of social freedom and a low level of economic freedom, while conservativism desires a high level of economic freedom and a low level of social freedom.

Libertarianism is about maintaining a high level of both social and economic freedom - it's the opposite to statism/totalitarianism. Of course, there are degrees of libertarianism just as there are degrees of every other political ideology and it doesn't necessarily mean social and economic anarchy.

I think it's just another example of the double standards applied - without meaning to sound trite - by "liberals".
Racism only happens against blacks, gender discrimination only happens to women, only minorities can be discriminated against. Institutionally racist policies such as affirmative action are the brainchild of left-wing politics, exactly as the defense of Islam over Christianity, a doctrine which contradicts every principle liberals are supposed to hold dear...

It's no better than Bush-style cronyism.

Yes, it's exactly like that. Rarely, though, are the aforementioned stupid "conservatives" self-professed intellectuals who believe themselves to be too intelligent to consider any other point of view than their own, which is what really grates on my nerves about the left-wing stupidity. The conservatives are stupid and ignorant and don't really have aspirations to be anything else. The mind-boggling thing is that often, the lefty loonies are theoretically intelligent, but they're either criminally insane or utterly deluded.

Personally I think that all non-religious, intelligent and thoughtful people must eventually come to the conclusion that libertarianism to one degree or another is the only correct way forward.

Libertarianism is economically identical to conservativism, which is responsible for the most prosperous nations in the world...

You're simply not qualified to say whether or not race has any inherent influence over IQ. We're a long way off understanding that.

You mean unlike the black culture which discourages personal learning and makes economic success all but impossible?
It might have just happened to escape your notice all these years, but apart from rap stars, there are no successful black people who "act black". They're successful because they've shunned black culture in order to make something of themselves.

White males receive the vast majority of discrimination in modern society. We are denied jobs and university places in order to give them to a less talented minority, just to fill a quota.

Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with the meaning of the word "racism", instead of being a politically correct numpty trying to shut down free speech.

This one is a gem.

There's a reason that the best athletes are black - they're flat-out physically superior to other races.
Does that make me racist too?


Not to mention that the article is clearly written by leftist mongs, the many bleeding heart morons of the USA being notable by their absence.

Lets see...

- Liberals, leftist, and socialm are to blame for all of the worlds woes.

- Liberals are all bleeding hearts, which translates to them being pussies.

- Nigge - Oops, I mean blacks and minorities are ruining white, western culture, because they receive help getting into college, and they don't assimilate.

- Whites have it harder than any other races, (despite blacks being dumber) we get discriminated against all the time.

- Touting right-wing talking points and lines about ultimately insignificant "liberal idols" like Cindy Sheehan, Al Gore, and Jesse Jackson.

- Extolling everything about Libertarianism, except for the liberal parts of it like free speech, which liberals don't really like because they want to baby everyone. The conservative parts rock though.

- In general making, asinine, and unbelievable generalizations and sweeping statements about people and cultures, and political groups, and ultimately defining things in insanely broad terminology, with out substantiating any of it.

- Ironically you and Al Gore share that whole scaremongering bit, you think that the big black boogyman is coming for you, and that countries without a unified culture fail - Have you ever been to New York? Or the US in general?

-Doubly ironic is this pile of piss "White males receive the vast majority of discrimination in modern society. We are denied jobs and university places in order to give them to a less talented minority" but in another thread you talk about "There's a reason that the best athletes are black - they're flat-out physically superior to other races." So that invisible white racism you talk about is justified, obviously Unis want talented dumb young blacks who can fill up their sports teams over nonathletic genius whites, right?

I'm sure there's more, but after looking through enough of your bullshit, I felt like I was looking through a Stormfront users post history, and just had to stop.

Ultra right-wing?
You're a moron.

You're right, and I apologize, it's apparent now that your a racist, xenophobic, over-simplifying, overgeneralizing, conservative who dresses up as a libertarian so you can claim all of your racist babel is protected by your huge hardon for free speech. Yeah that sound about right, after reading through a few dozen of your posts.

In before you either blow this off, call it out of context, or call me a moron again.

PS: Oh, by the way, I think the black, Muslim, liberals, who want to make society multicultural made you crash your motorcycle.

PPS: People who practice Islam are called Muslims, thats why it's capitalized.
 
That's it, I'm moving to Sweden. My pride can't take it anymore.

No one makes fun of Sweden.
 
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Hay guys, Are image tags not working?
 
You're paranoid and have no sense of humour. That is all.

Completely untrue. That is all.

and you know this to be 100% true ..I mean, i dont know how I'd react how is it you do? how does that work? I mean how is it that you know without a shadow of a doubt that's how I would react? I mean all you know about me is exclusively in text ..you cant possibly argue that that is the totality of my personality ...that would be silly

No, I don't "know this to be 100% true". It's an educated guess based on your past performance.

you mean like how over 80% of US soldiers stationed in iraq as of jan 2006 believed despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary that Saddam was behind 9/11? or how despite the hell-on-earth in Iraq some americans still support bush's decsion to invade iraq?

Yes, exactly like that.

..funny how you gloss over all those that still support the president despite the fact that he openly lied to americans? or how people blindly vote for a republican just because they're not a democrat? I mean if you followed the election of 2004 you'd think the issues were: politicians wearing makeup and who has a purple heart and who's daddy paid to insure the candiadate would never recieve a purple heart? ...you do realise this is america they're talking about? partisan support is a specatator sport south the 49th parallel

Why would I make light of such things? There's more than enough people doing that already. Not many intelligent people are openly challenging the liberal bullshit, which is equally damaging but currently unchecked.
If you listened to a majority of the liberal-minded, it's our fault blacks are failing in America, ID cards are good for you and private transportation will invoke Armageddon. Ban everything to save people from themselves.
The biggest threat to modern society is the sheer power of the state - it's grown to unimaginable proportions in recent years, and the blame for that lies mostly at the feet of misguided do-gooders who think the government can and should solve everyone's problems for them.

I detest political labels ..and really this article isnt about neo-conservatism or whether the UK is authotarian ..frankly i couldnt care less what label anyone wants to label them with

So do I, but it's much easier than writing a paragraph to describe a particular mindset - and you use them just as much as I do. With less qualification. Ahh them damn conservatives....oh the idiots on the right...etc. etc...

you tell me, you're the one who thinks socialists are socialists because they havent endured any real hardship

I didn't say that. I said that very few people who have endured real hardship are socialists.
Socialists - and I don't mean people who advocate state-funded healthcare - tend to be naive idealists with a very tenuous grasp on reality.

how so? point to where I imply this

You defended bleeding hearts with the sole justification that they give a damn about people besides themselves.
So goddamn what? That doesn't make them special. Liberals don't care about others any more than conservatives do, they're just more inclined to approve of a handout rather than a hand up - and to see people as victims.
Ultimately, the liberal definition of charity keeps people in poverty by way of dependence. Not so kind, after all.

and where does it say "the 50 most loathsome POLITICAL people in america"? the fact that it doesnt pick on "liberal-weenies" is something you should take up with the author, not me

It doesn't, but the fact that of all the political figures there, none of them are liberal-weenies, indicates the underlying beliefs of the authors.

This one is a gem.

Lets see...

- Liberals, leftist, and socialm are to blame for all of the worlds woes.

I never said that, moron.

- Liberals are all bleeding hearts, which translates to them being pussies.

I never said that, either. You are a pussy though.

- Nigge - Oops, I mean blacks and minorities are ruining white, western culture, because they receive help getting into college, and they don't assimilate.

Some minorities do ruin our culture by not assimilating. Well done.
Why the **** should someone get help getting into college just because of the colour of their skin? And you have the cheek to call me a racist? You're the racist here, chump. That's exactly the ****ing problem - right there.

- Whites have it harder than any other races, (despite blacks being dumber) we get discriminated against all the time.

I never said whites had it harder than any other races, either. I said we get discriminated against more than any other race - which is true, as you yourself highlighted above.
Just because whites generally have it better than most (not all) other ethnic groups in our society, does not justify institutionalised discrimination against them. Who the **** do you think you are, Robin Hood?

- Touting right-wing talking points and lines about ultimately insignificant "liberal idols" like Cindy Sheehan, Al Gore, and Jesse Jackson.

What right-wing talking points do I tout then, genius?

- Extolling everything about Libertarianism, except for the liberal parts of it like free speech, which liberals don't really like because they want to baby everyone. The conservative parts rock though.

What? Where have I ever said anything negative about free speech, you pious, ignorant twat? Or about curtailing social freedoms?
At least get your ****ing facts straight.

- In general making, asinine, and unbelievable generalizations and sweeping statements about people and cultures, and political groups, and ultimately defining things in insanely broad terminology, with out substantiating any of it.

You can't make any useful comparison of any kind of broad group or concept without generalising to some degree. It doesn't mean there aren't exceptions, but it doesn't mean the generalisation isn't valid for the purposes of the argument, either. Even if only a small percentage of Muslims are terrorists, if that percentage is hundreds of times higher than any other religion, guess what? Islam has a ****ing problem.

- Ironically you and Al Gore share that whole scaremongering bit, you think that the big black boogyman is coming for you, and that countries without a unified culture fail - Have you ever been to New York? Or the US in general?

Why would I need to go to New York? I live in London for christ's sakes.
The difference between the US and Britain is, while cultural differences within the US are vast, all are unified by the core values the nation holds dear. Even if you're a Sikh living in New York, you're still an American first and foremost. People go to America to be American, people come to Britain to be themselves.
Ironically, this is changing of late and the US as we speak is being torn apart by the vast fundamental differences in culture between left and right.
In Britain, we don't make any attempt to draw immigrants into our way of life. We let them be, even encourage them to be "diverse", and as a result they form their own, complete separate cultures - with very little in common with us except land space. That is a negative thing.

-Doubly ironic is this pile of piss "White males receive the vast majority of discrimination in modern society. We are denied jobs and university places in order to give them to a less talented minority" but in another thread you talk about "There's a reason that the best athletes are black - they're flat-out physically superior to other races." So that invisible white racism you talk about is justified, obviously Unis want talented dumb young blacks who can fill up their sports teams over nonathletic genius whites, right?

What the hell are you talking about? And would you care to disprove either statement, for that matter?

I'm sure there's more, but after looking through enough of your bullshit, I felt like I was looking through a Stormfront users post history, and just had to stop.

Stormfront. :LOL:
Who paints with a broad brush now? I don't judge anyone by the colour of their skin, I judge them by their actions. That doesn't mean I have to shout from the rooftops that the black man is being oppressed when the reason black people are poor is quite clearly because their own culture is failing them. You narrow-minded, stupid prick.

You're right, and I apologize, it's apparent now that your a racist, xenophobic, over-simplifying, overgeneralizing, conservative who dresses up as a libertarian so you can claim all of your racist babel is protected by your huge hardon for free speech. Yeah that sound about right, after reading through a few dozen of your posts.

In before you either blow this off, call it out of context, or call me a moron again.

PS: Oh, by the way, I think the black, Muslim, liberals, who want to make society multicultural made you crash your motorcycle.

PPS: People who practice Islam are called Muslims, thats why it's capitalized.

You're the racist here. And not just in your opinions - you actually support racist policy, you've admitted as much in this post. Now shut the **** up.
 
sure that page is bookmarked in solaris favorites

and dont tell me stern is red too?
 
Your political views differ and you're not going to convert each other.
What's next?
 
Your political views differ and you're not going to convert each other.
What's next?

I'm not being rude to Irksome because of his political views, I'm being rude to him because he's a stupid, obnoxious, hypocritical piece of shit with a major superiority complex who doesn't have the brainpower to draw even remotely accurate conclusions from anything I've said, and thinks he has some cause to talk down to me.
A true brainless (and spiteful) liberal, is he. Rush Limbaugh's evil twin would be proud.
 
I'm not being rude to Irksome because of his political views, I'm being rude to him because he's a stupid, obnoxious, hypocritical piece of shit with a major superiority complex who doesn't have the brainpower to draw even remotely accurate conclusions from anything I've said, and thinks he has some cause to talk down to me.
A true brainless (and spiteful) liberal, is he. Rush Limbaugh's evil twin would be proud.

I was thinking more of you v Stern. Since he's less flamey.
 
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