9/11 Memorials and Specials driving me insane.

[Raziaar]

Okay... it's been 6 years. Yeah, something bad happened to the country, that shocked a lot of people, me included. However, what happened wasn't any worse than what goes on frequently in other parts of the world. We just live a very sheltered life.

I can understand the occasional desire for remembrance. But at what point in time is this national remembrance going to cease? Never? it wouldn't be so bad if they just discussed it on 9/11 every year. However, now I'm starting to see these damn specials and tributes as far out as a week or more from the date, and probably a week or more after. So instead of a remembrance day, we now have remembrance month.

Give me back my normal programming. Stop filling history channel and discovery channel with this stuff! I don't want to change the channel, but I also don't want to have to watch 10 back to back specials telling us how terrible 9/11 was!

 

[Darkside55]

I forgot about 9/11 until the internet reminded me today. I guess we have to cover it so much or we'll forget. AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO NEVER FORGET!

 

[Ridge]

what happened wasn't any worse than what goes on frequently in other parts of the world.

Oooh, sorry buddy. Actually it was the single worst terror attack in the history of the world...

If you can point me to a place where planes full of people fly into buildings full of people frequently, please do show...Im sure nobody will mind if we invade what is left...

 

[-Psy-]

TV is staying off for today. And it will be off once the Christmas adverts are shown...

 

[Raziaar]

Oooh, sorry buddy. Actually it was the single worst terror attack in the history of the world...

If you can point me to a place where planes full of people fly into buildings full of people frequently, please do show...Im sure nobody will mind if we invade what is left...

Look... I'm talking about the bombings and murders that go on in the war torn parts of the world that completely rival the trade center attacks in their frequency and number of deaths.

And you could even say that genocides that go on in the world are a form of terror attack, which kill FAR more people than you could ever dream of dying in an office building attack. And in a shorter period of time, too!

 

[AJ Rimmer]

Oh right, have to congratulate me parents, thanks for reminding me!

Out of interest; Is it still true they've done ****-all on the actual site where the towers stood? Like, no monuments or anything?

 

[Crushenator 500]

Oooh, sorry buddy. Actually it was the single worst terror attack in the history of the world...

What about the crusades? The holocaust? Surely they could be counted as terrorism

And even if not, here's a pretty lenghty list for you to look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents

 

[Raziaar]

And why is it people are throwing out the terror attack like a badge?

"We have had the worst terror attack in history fall upon us!"

Why do they say it, what it seems like oftentimes, as if it's a badge, something to lord over other people?

 

[Ridge]

Like Agent Smith told Morpheus....us human beings define our lives by the bad things that happen to us...

 

[Darkside55]

I'm beginning to hate the word, "terror." Are some of you seriously trying to classify genocides and the crusades as terrorism? Good God.

 

[Raziaar]

I'm beginning to hate the word, "terror." Are some of you seriously trying to classify genocides and the crusades as terrorism? Good God.

Terrorism is such a subjective word. I would classify genocides as terrorism, not necessarily the crusades(even though I disagree with the crusades).

 

[Darkside55]

It's a stupid buzzword that was used to drum up nationalistic feelings and support for the war. Any previous meaning it had has been taken and twisted.

Hate that goddamned word now.

 

[Raziaar]

It's a stupid buzzword that was used to drum up nationalistic feelings and support for the war. Any previous meaning it had has been taken and twisted.

Hate that goddamned word now.

I feel the same, trust me. That's all 9/11 is to most people these days anyways who speak so loudly about it... a buzzword to conjure up support.

 

[xcellerate]

And why is it people are throwing out the terror attack like a badge?

"We have had the worst terror attack in history fall upon us!"

Because this is america and we're the best....at everything.

 

[Crushenator 500]

I'm beginning to hate the word, "terror." Are some of you seriously trying to classify genocides and the crusades as terrorism? Good God.

''The FBI defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.''

So sure, why not, how would you describe it?

Why are you so angry anyway, getting worked up about nothing :/

 

[Darkside55]

Because I hear it so often these days, and I think it's rather...how should I put this?

The term has become meaningless. Hearing it actually lessens the gravity of what it's applied to now. Perhaps you don't hear the word so often, being in the UK, perhaps you do, but we hear it CONSTANTLY in this country. Turn on a dedicated news channel at any given time to find out the latest on the "War on Terror."

To me I just feel like using the word terrorism the classify the holocaust is a big slap in the face to Jews. And I'm not even Jewish. Hey maybe some of them would call it terror too. But like I said, the word's lost what significance it once had, like when a song has been overplayed on the radio. It cheapens it, it lessens it, it gives people new ways to twist a word and use it to describe all manner of things it shouldn't be describing.

Picture Bush behind a podium talking about how the holocaust was an act of terrorism. Let the mental scene sink in for a moment. THAT'S why I'm upset.

 

[kirovman]

I was doing a Mapping software simulation of a couple of planes flying around on a world map today.

A colleague said to me, "What your you doing, playing 9/11?"

Then I realised what day it was.

Anyway, yeah 9/11 was terrible in terms of death toll and terror impact, and deserves remembrance.
But it should be put in context with other things that are happening around the world on a daily basis.

Also, the war on terror is a baffling term, such as the "war on blue" or war on any other intangible thing would be.

 

[CptStern]

what bothers me about 9/11 is that the event is tarnished because the bush admin used it to justify pretty much everything they did, from illegally invading countries to stomping on individual rights

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

what bothers me about 9/11 is that the event is tarnished because the bush admin used it to justify pretty much everything they did, from illegally invading countries to stomping on individual rights

Keep this shit out of here, thanks.

Friend's dad was killed that day so I'll always remember it...

 

[Krynn72]

I forgot about it until I saw a huge influx of WTC images on image boards.

 

[CptStern]

Keep this shit out of here, thanks.

keep what out? wtf are you talking about? I wasnt the first to voice this opinion ..oh and I do what I please, this isnt a memorial thread

 

[Ridge]

what bothers me about 9/11 is that the event is tarnished because the bush admin used it to justify pretty much everything they did, from illegally invading countries to stomping on individual rights

Now that I can agree with...it was a terrible thing, sure...but its no cause to use the Bill of Rights as a doormat, or to invade a country because it has "suspected ties to terrorism"

 

[Baserape>]

What about the crusades?

A complete failure, if they had succeeded we would not have these dickheads proposing Sharia law in every Christian, non Christian country. The Taliban would not exist and Osama would be a born again Christian. Pakistan would not be a seperate state in India and France would remain intact. In 50 years time or less the majority of France's population will be Muslim.

:O

 

[Crushenator 500]

To me I just feel like using the word terrorism the classify the holocaust is a big slap in the face to Jews. And I'm not even Jewish. Hey maybe some of them would call it terror too.

Heh well I am jewish and I'm the one who said it :E

 

[Tagaziel]

I hate memorials services and specials in general. In place of reflection and learning on mistakes, we get a bunch of sad faces on the national television and shallow gestures posing as compassion.

9/11 was a tragic event, true. But it was a single, isolated incident blown completely out of proportion, creating a whole culture of martyrdom.

Guess what, we had terrorist attacks in Europe too. Remember the 7/07 bombings? Spanish metro bombings? Do you see giant events to commemorate them? No, you don't.

Remembering doesn't mean organising a whole fiesta concentrated on an event. It means "learning from mistakes" and "honoring the memory of those lost".

 

[Solaris]

I agree with darkside, the holocaust was not an act of terrorism, it was something far worse.

When I think of terrorism I think of small minorities trying to kill civillians to force political change, like some IRA bombings and 9/11 and 7/7.

 

[Raziaar]

A complete failure, if they had succeeded we would not have these dickheads proposing Sharia law in every Christian, non Christian country. The Taliban would not exist and Osama would be a born again Christian. Pakistan would not be a seperate state in India and France would remain intact. In 50 years time or less the majority of France's population will be Muslim.

:O

That's not true. Muslim power was great in the middle ages. But guess what? The Christian kingdoms were not interested in wiping them out or destroying their religion. They simply wanted to reclaim the holy land. Same with the muslims of the time. It was all about the holy land, not destroying the others religion or civilization.

So the problems we have today, would still be here today albeit in a perhaps slightly different incarnation.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

what bothers me about 9/11 is that the event is tarnished because the bush admin used it to justify pretty much everything they did, from illegally invading countries to stomping on individual rights

Agreed 9/11 was at terrible event, along with the other acts of terroism (7/11, etc.) and yet the west just use to it aviod all other problems.

 

[phantomdesign]

"Remembrance of the tragedy" of terrorist events is EXACTLY what terrorist would want. Instead of remembering the tragedy, why don't we have a celebration of all the terrorist's asses we kicked, and vow to not let stuff like that happen again.

 

[Escaep]

Hey, Raziaar-- What country do you live in?

 

[Raziaar]

Hey, Raziaar-- What country do you live in?

The United States.

Why?

 

[CptStern]

because you're obviously anti-american

 

[Escaep]

The United States.

Why?

So your saying you dont care about the broadcasting of the worst terrorist attack in US history that claimed 2,753 of your innocent countrymen?

 

[<RJMC>]

I dont see nothing bad in the USA remenbering the thing

but as stern said it have been used for political gain and that stuff

 

[Raziaar]

So your saying you dont care about the broadcasting of the worst terrorist attack in US history that claimed 2,753 of your innocent countrymen?

No, I'm saying that it doesn't have to continue to hog the airwaves 6 years after the fact. It even hogs the airwaves at times when the month isn't September.

 

[Lucid]

So your saying you dont care about the broadcasting of the worst terrorist attack in US history that claimed 2,753 of your innocent countrymen?

Yeah, this thread is pointless... and will certainly lead to a flame fest.

It was a tragic event, this is their way of immortalizing it.

They do it on memorial day too, and veteran's day, and every other day in which something horrifying happened.

 

[Ravioli]

 

[Darkside55]

I don't get it.

 

[Escaep]

No, I'm saying that it doesn't have to continue to hog the airwaves 6 years after the fact. It even hogs the airwaves at times when the month isn't September.

Obviously then people want to watch it. Because a recent poll send 90% of Americans view Sep. 11 as the biggest historic event in their lives. And it is one day it "hogs the airways." And you can expect this for many years to come. I am sure that for the years after Hiroshima it hogged the airways on the anniversaries. But 62 years later, people barely talk about it. It is going to be discussed for years to come.

 

[Tyguy]

sad but true