Game Cards banned for being.... demonic?

What the fuck is up with you guys? None of you actually read his post. He *disagreed* with the reasons, but did it anyway, because he would get in trouble. I know god damn well that the majority of you have done something you've considered morally unjust to stop your permanent record getting screwed at school.

I'm sick of this place.

-Angry Lawyer
 
he only had a moral dilemna when he took the cards away from young kids who then started crying ..he still thought it was ok ..his biggest complaint was the "why" they were to be taken away ..were it any other justification I doubt he'd have a problem with it
 
But it still shows free thought. Consider Numbers of a year ago. He's have cut those things up without a second thought. The road to improvement is a rocky one, and you're not going to suddenly shift to left overnight. Having a meaningful discussion over the morality of it would be a good thing. Instantly attacking him, no matter what he types, is a shit thing to do. Hell, this all reminds me of my music teachers back at school. When I got something wrong, I didn't get "Hey, you went wrong, here's how you do it right", I got "hey, you went wrong, and you're never going to amount to anything". Or the guys at school who'd tell me I was shit, no matter what I did.

I guess you've never heard of positive reinforcement. People like you folk are the reason I almost killed myself.

-Angry Lawyer
 
Angry Lawyer said:
But it still shows free thought. Consider Numbers of a year ago. He's have cut those things up without a second thought.
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I dont remember him a year ago ..Numbers has always been ..well Numbers

Angry Lawyer said:
The road to improvement is a rocky one, and you're not going to suddenly shift to left overnight. Having a meaningful discussion over the morality of it would be a good thing.
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yes I agree you have a point ..however this is taking toys away from children ..you shouldnt even have to question it because it's just blatantly is immoral


Angry Lawyer said:
Instantly attacking him, no matter what he types, is a shit thing to do.
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I truely try to give him the benefit of doubt ..but he just makes it so hard ..most of you are too young to remember but anti-communist rhetoric was quite common when I was growing up ..it just seems so outdated in this day and age

Angry Lawyer said:
Hell, this all reminds me of my music teachers back at school. When I got something wrong, I didn't get "Hey, you went wrong, here's how you do it right", I got "hey, you went wrong, and you're never going to amount to anything".
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obviously your music teacher was an idiot (I had a similiar teacher in grade 4)

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Or the guys at school who'd tell me I was shit, no matter what I did.
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that's more their problem than yours ..sure you're the target but there's something about you that made them feel threatened/insecure

Angry Lawyer said:
I guess you've never heard of positive reinforcement.
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I know you're not referring to me

Angry Lawyer said:
People like you folk are the reason I almost killed myself.

-Angry Lawyer
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that's not fair ..even insulting AL, most of the people who posted in this thread are decent people ..and I dont think anyone hates Numbers for his POV (I certainly dont ..in fact I dont dislike him either) ..it just seems odd or even a little crazy because to the majority of us Numbers POV is as alien as they come ..but from where he's from I'm willing to bet it's normal
 
I'm having a really bad day, and this thread's just brought up a load of shit I didn't want to remember about my past. Sorry about that :(

-Angry Lawyer
 
no need to apologise ..you do have a point ..sometimes I feel bad ..other times not so much

if you ever need someone to talk to send me a PM ..I'm non judgemental and have experience dealing with problems (I was a teacher)
 
I've never been in that situation where I had to do something I disagreed with... but I know when I was younger, I didn't think for myself as much... hell I didn't even have much of a concept of what was right and wrong when it came to personal freedom.

I was raised in a public school system where the teachers were the masters and the kids did what they were told.

I remember when my teacher took up a cool holographic bookmark that my dad had given me. I was showing it off during class and everyone was like "ohhh cool!" and the teacher was like "stop disrupting class! give that to me." She said I could have it back at the end of the week and when I asked for it, she acted like she didn't know what I was talking about.

The younger you are, the less you think for yourself... which is why alot of other countries are able to have less freedoms than others and the whole system doesn't necessarily fall apart, because they were raised that way as children.
 
Darkside55 said:
Well, I'm not going to get into all this "today school rules and tomorrow you'll be an unwitting pawn of your government, doomed to carry out whatever horrible tasks they bestow upon you because you've been brainwashed ever since you turned in some kid's YGO cards" stuff. I think you're all jumping the gun way too prematurely here.
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Well, I for one was taking the piss!

However, it is true that the exact same idiot (un) reasoning that went into the banning of those cards (makes sense to ban them if they're causing actual trouble; not to ban them because they're demonic and immoral) is the same kind of reasoning that Numbers tends to blindly agree with as long as it comes from his own government and not from the religious. I almost died at the irony of this particular quote:

Numbers said:
Why? 'Cause it's demonic and immoral. Ok, great.
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Says Mr 'Governments should be obeyed because they're the government'. :p
 
so you basically made a lot of little kids cry with the single justification that 'it's your job'.

i hate you.
 
Numbers is not doing what he's doing because he believes in it. He's doing what he's doing because if he were to go against the the authority in this situation, he'd get in trouble that he doesn't need.

So it becomes a matter of weighing your options, do as your told, or become a martyr over yu-gi-oh cards. I for one would not become a martyr over yu-gi-oh cards. But I'd somehow try to screw with the system and get some of the cards back or turn a blind eye when i can.

You guys don't understand that asian schools are extremely serious business. They don't **** around over there. Its a cut throat game of survivor over there. Second you go against the grain you get ruined, hard. Everyone else around the world has it fairly easy. Or at least thats what the movies imply. :P
 
Personally I'm not in the habit of facing the punishments of a school system to stand up for a bunch of cards. Even in college, its risky to fight against head-figures... you have to choose your battles wisely. I don't understand why everyone is shunning Numbers for doing what he was told to do in school.
 
people arent "shunning" him ..it's just that his brand of fascism kinda gets grating after awhile
 
My sig pretty much states my opinon on the subject.

As for numbers, his situation makes me feel lucky to have grown up in a free (mostly anyway) country.
 
I really don't see what's up with the alluvasudden, "Hate on numbers" bandwagon. He was told to do something he did it. He didn't like it, but it's like lying to a customer or something at your job. You may not like it, but if it's either tell them the truth and get fired, or lie and keep your job, you'd pick the lie.

Granted, burning cards was a little high stakes...it wasn't Numbers who made the rule, he was just the messenger. Why kill the messenger?
 
Aye.
Numbers is questioning it, he knows its wrong, but he could get really screwed if he doesn't obey. Mr.Numbers, I would reccomend you corrupt and do the bare minimum.
 
Solaris said:
Aye.
Numbers is questioning it, he knows its wrong, but he could get really screwed if he doesn't obey. Mr.Numbers, I would reccomend you corrupt and do the bare minimum.
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Yeh. Take only a few cards away from the little kids (maybe ask them which ones aren't valuable, so you don't completely destroy their life :p), and only do the minimum of what others are bringing in. (So if a guy brings in 80, and another brings in 15, then bring in 15 yourself, not 80)
 
What if he doesn't get any...I mean, maybe he has the route that has the kids that dont WANT to lose their cards!
 
CyberPitz said:
What if he doesn't get any...I mean, maybe he has the route that has the kids that dont WANT to lose their cards!
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Then he says he told all the kids on his route not to bring in cards and they didn't. He will get a medal.
 
The moral is that it's better to be a pre-school schindler than.. a cockmongler?
Does cockmongler describe this situation?
What's a good word for someone who enforces a ludicrous "demon" policy?
 
couldnt he just resign as Hallway Stooge and do something that's less about taking things from little kids and more about reporting suspected commies/hippies?
 
or he could just rat out the kiddies and finalize his metamorphasis into Fascist Numbers

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I'm kidding :E
 
Well for some reason it goes on his permanent record. I'd rather destroy some kids' fun and games, than have to flip burgers all my life D: as harsh as that sounds. But the society is messed up in that respect. Here it's the total opposite. Kids are out of control and they don't listen to any authority.

But hopefully he'll become less compliant with authority, then become a politician, and liberalise the Korean Peninsula! Maybe.
 
*reads thread*

;(


Anyway, I transferred to field patrol duty today with 2 of my friends, where you don't have to take away cards. It sucked. Extremely. I tried to stop a few 9th grader girls from leaving the school without authoritization, and she tried to hit me. :/ So, I closed the barricades and locked it.

The funny thing is, someone broke into the teacher's lockers today, and stole over 600 taken-away cards, as well as a few comic books. Teacher: "Find out who did it, search for anyone that seems to have suddenly gotten lots of cards." (You can't really take away cards from 9th graders, because, a) they're your friends, and it'd be bad, and b) they have more fist power than you.)

I also asked the Students Department teacher why we had to take away the cards, he said something along the lines of "bad atmosphere for the school" but nothing religious, so I'm thinking that it was only a few teachers' opinions that they were 'demonic'. Anyway, it's not like it's a national law; it's only a school rule that was prolly voted in by sleepy teachers at 6 in the morning with a breifing by one religious fanatic.

couldnt he just resign as Hallway Stooge and do something that's less about taking things from little kids and more about reporting suspected commies/hippies?
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20 grade points is an awesomly big thing. I have to think about my future; anything that can increase my chances of getting into a good university has to be done.


Long Live the Free 6th Republic of Korea! :p
 
lol you barricaded every one in the school. Awesome.
lol 9th graders playing with pokemon cards.
 
Cards of every sort (even normal playing cards) have been formally banned from every school I've ever been to. Nobody really obeys or enforces the rule, just like the cigarette, liquor, and drug rules. Now that I'm out of high school, there's aren't any rules regarding cards, but you don't see anything but the occasional poker deck, as anyone still playing MTG at 18 would be ridiculed without mercy.
 
I must say numbers, your school and nation is sounding awfully... well, not evil, but... ultimate lawful?

Like ultimate lawful neutral.
 
Woudn't ultimate lawful neutral be Chaotic Neutral?
 
Cards were also banned at all of the schools I went to, and also confiscated/destroyed.

-Angry Lawyer
 
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Anyway, I transferred to field patrol duty today with 2 of my friends
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..oh for the love of god..

Do you talk like this in real life? Is every waking second of your life like a b-grade war film?
 
Oh, fuck you, Fusion, nobody gives a shit what you think.

-Angry Lawyer
 
This entire thread is a giant overreaction. I would be suprised if half of you didn't have things like this at your school too. I was in third grade when pokemon cards were popular, kids played with them at recess but it started getting out of hand with fights and stuff. So the school banned them and told the kids the cards would be taken away if they saw them and not given back till the end of the year. We also had kids in our class that would randomly run out of school. Two of them were friends of mine strangely enough.

And fusion sucks.
 
Numbers is doing what he believes in. Don't bite his head off for doing that.
 
What a meaningless statement. >_>

What if I believe in biting people's heads off? Eh? EH?
 
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