Hobbies

[sinkoman]

Well for a start, you said to start with the rear and ease onto the front, but it's the other way around. The front provides virtually all your stopping power, the rear is mostly for stability and slow control. If you're afraid to use the front brake, you're going to get very badly hurt someday. The rear is good at adjusting your speed when riding slowly and at bringing the bike to a dignified stop, but if you're travelling at any real speed you literally won't notice any effect on your speed from using the rear brake. The front brakes on modern bikes are designed to bring you to a complete stop from over 150mph in the space of a few seconds - use them.
Also, if you treat the rear brake like a lightswitch, you'll have problems - stamp on that thing and you'll be off. Especially in bad weather, over bad road surfaces or when you're not upright. I had a Bandit 600 for a while as an insurance bike, and that was the worst for it - apparently because it's got real cheap rear suspension. Even the slightest touch in the wet would have the rear dancing.
I'm guessing you haven't really ridden in the wet - there's far less grip available and you have to be very smooth and progressive with every input. Manhole covers and other things on the road become as slippery as sheet ice - they offer no grip whatsoever.

No, I haven't seen much wet tarmac. Hell, I haven't really seen much road. I only have my permit, so I spend very little, if any time on the street.

Still working on the MSF course.

"Twisties" is not a reference to hairpin bends. Twisties are just windy roads, rather like racetracks in fact. The Isle of Man TT is "the twisties", and I don't see people competing there on supermotos.
Also, on a V-Twin sportsbike (like the SV650, TLR1000 or pick a Ducati/Aprilia), the power delivery is linear and equal.
I really don't follow you on the "supermoto will carry far more speed into a corner" lark, that's nonsense. Carrying speed through corners is what sportsbikes are designed for. Perhaps you mean that it will reach full lean angle more quickly, in which case possibly but that's purely down to the weight and will also apply to any low capacity sportsbike you care to pick.
If you're making use of that extreme cornering ability the road, you probably won't live too long anyway. Reaching the limits of grip on a sportsbike or supermoto is not something I would recommend on the street...

I probably shouldn't argue this with you, as I must admit, i'm going purely off of hearsay.

God knows i'm probably wrong, but everything I'VE seen so far, which consists of trackday videos and head-to-head videos, seems to show that SUMOs are much better cornering machines.

Btw, have you ever seen a SUMO bike back it in? It's insanely awesome.

It's when they snap down two gears and feather the clutch to break the rear end free whilst coming around a tight corner.

Check out some Youtube vids. One that comes to mind is one where Nicky Hayden and a bunch of other guys are dicking around on sumos in their spare time. Can't check atm, kinda busy.

But as I said, you've much more experience on the matter, so I won't even attempt to argue with you

 

[repiV]

No, I haven't seen much wet tarmac. Hell, I haven't really seen much road. I only have my permit, so I spend very little, if any time on the street.

It's something you have to live with over here.
This summer it absolutely chucked it down a great deal of the time...probably revenge for the great April we had.
Rain is a great leveller, since the performance available on more powerful bikes becomes redunant. A lot of the modern sportsbikes are actually really difficult to control in bad weather, dip into the powerband a bit too quickly by accident and you kiss the ground. The suspension is usually set up to deal with good, smooth road surfaces too. Take it onto an ancient backroad that doesn't see maintenance and you'll be practically walking it along.

Still working on the MSF course.

Good stuff. I also recommend this book, which will improve your road skills immensely, and this book which is all about effective cornering based on motorcycle physics and overcoming instinctive survival reactions (eg. grabbing a handful of front brake after entering a corner too hot, tensing up or staring at something you don't want to hit).

I probably shouldn't argue this with you, as I must admit, i'm going purely off of hearsay.

God knows i'm probably wrong, but everything I'VE seen so far, which consists of trackday videos and head-to-head videos, seems to show that SUMOs are much better cornering machines.

Well, if they were better cornering machines, they would be popular in amateur racing - especially as they're much cheaper to run (racing is obscenely expensive...). As it stands, the SV650 is the most popular race bike in the UK.
In any case, if you ride around with your leg sticking out, you ain't gonna be leaning the bike very far.

Btw, have you ever seen a SUMO bike back it in? It's insanely awesome.

It's when they snap down two gears and feather the clutch to break the rear end free whilst coming around a tight corner.

Yeah, that's awesome - but it's only effective in a very specific situation. And if you piss about like that on the road you'll undoubtedly end up in the same position I'm in. Seriously, anyone who regularly exploits the cornering potential of a sportsbike/supermoto on the road is just asking for trouble. Footpeg down on my bike is a pretty extreme lean angle, and being a sports-tourer it has fairly low pegs. A proper sportsbike has pegs a good two or more inches higher, and farther back - and I lowsided on a dry road without even having the peg touch.

Check out some Youtube vids. One that comes to mind is one where Nicky Hayden and a bunch of other guys are dicking around on sumos in their spare time. Can't check atm, kinda busy.

But as I said, you've much more experience on the matter, so I won't even attempt to argue with you

I'll take a look at some point.

 

[jverne]

hobbies...hehe...

guitar,
making music,
bladesmiting,
astronomy,
creating different kind of stuff,
learning physics (not kidding)
shooting

and tons more, damn i wish i wouldn't get old, i'd like to do so much things

skydiving,
going to space,
seeing how the future turns out,...

i'm going to bed


bye

 

[CrazyHarij]

too many to mention.. painting, drawing, music making (guitar, synths, production, rap), writing, pumping iron, professional beer drinking, spiritual stuff like channeling, gaming, poker (live mostly), philosophy, gathering stupid/quirky/kitsch electronic devices, photography, film making (script, editing, sound engineering)

 

[repiV]

too many to mention.. painting, drawing, music making (guitar, synths, production, rap), writing, pumping iron, professional beer drinking, spiritual stuff like channeling, gaming, poker (live mostly), philosophy, gathering stupid/quirky/kitsch electronic devices, photography, film making (script, editing, sound engineering)

All that high-tech shit you do and you can't even be bothered to use a real PC.
You neglect me Harij, what with your lack of MSN. And your lack of capital letters.

 

[Sheltie]

Reading (constantly)
Drawing (frequently)
Woodcraving(every now and then)
Astronomy
Fishing(not as much since I moved out of the Mountains)

 

[CrazyHarij]

ill be getting one next quarter hopefully. but capital letters are overrated. AM I RITE??

 

[Dog--]

YES YOU ARE RIGHT.

capitallees