Too much sex in entertainment?

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Everywhere one looks now, from television to movies, there is sex. so do you think the shameless, morally deprived fat cats in the game industry are going too far with it. Sex not involving another physical person is never good, but searves only as a temptation for disgusting, depraved acts. So do you think they are going too far?
 
Yes, especially in action movies. Who cares about sex scenes when there is tons and tons of blood and gore? There is a difference between porn and other types of films. The producers try to add some kind of love feeling between the main buff gun-slinging hero and the annoying love interest that tags along.
 
abconners said:
Everywhere one looks now, from television to movies, there is sex. so do you think the shameless, morally deprived fat cats in the game industry are going too far with it. Sex not involving another physical person is never good, but searves only as a temptation for disgusting, depraved acts. So do you think they are going too far?
no, the more the merrier.
 
gh0st said:
no, the more the merrier.

Agreed. I mean there gonna be exposed to it sooner or later. Who cares? Its violence that we should watch out for. That makes people...uh, violent.
 
Entertainment is there to entertain...
Not to be taken seriously or
As some sort of role model
If you're effected negatively
By such lame things, then perhaps
You shouldnt be watching it
 
Hey, to the original poster. At least you don't have it as bad as some countries like Germany, etc eh? Where they have hardcore sex in their public broadcasting? Now, I don't know if its true, but I heard there was a pepsi commercial with a guy banging on this girl in vivid detail, and then they flash to a pepsi can? WTF? Has stuff like that actually aired in germany or other countries?
 
dart321 said:
Agreed. I mean there gonna be exposed to it sooner or later. Who cares? Its violence that we should watch out for. That makes people...uh, violent.
if people cant handle sex they should leave society. watching sex isnt going to hurt anybody except those who watch it, and no one is forcing you to. if you dont like sex, watch sesame street or pokemon. surprising that i'm saying this, but im a realist first and a conservative second.

Raziaar said:
Where they have hardcore sex in their public broadcasting?
theres hardcore sex in our public broadcasting too.
 
All that kind of porno in movies leads to more masturbation, which is a terribly evil act that leaves you feeling selfish and empty. Imagine those movies that make an entire audience sexually arosed. do you realize how disgusting that is for someone to watch a screen and feel that way. I think it had gone wayyyyy too far when they show kate winslit nude in titanic. It was pg13 for crying out loud. It is unhealthy to be aroused by a damn false image.
 
Masturbation is pretty gross
But no one makes you do it
If you dont want to feel like that
Then dont watch things that
Give you that feeling
 
abconners said:
All that kind of porno in movies leads to more masturbation, which is a terribly evil act that leaves you feeling selfish and empty. Imagine those movies that make an entire audience sexually arosed. do you realize how disgusting that is for someone to watch a screen and feel that way. I think it had gone wayyyyy too far when they show kate winslit nude in titanic. It was pg13 for crying out loud. It is unhealthy to be aroused by a damn false image.

First of all, how is it a false image ofKate Winslet nude? Second of all, how is it unhealthy to be attracted(lust is different than attraction)? The female form is a very attractive thing, at least in my eyes. And the way it was done in the movie, the portrait scene, was very classy and artistic.
 
gh0st said:
if people cant handle sex they should leave society. watching sex isnt going to hurt anybody except those who watch it, and no one is forcing you to. if you dont like sex, watch sesame street or pokemon. surprising that i'm saying this, but im a realist first and a conservative second.


Its not me im worried about, its the rest of society. When we lose our morals we don't care what is right and wrong and then you have another Nazi Germany. All you need to do to control people is to take away their sense of right and wrong.
 
gh0st said:
theres hardcore sex in our public broadcasting too.

Funny, i've been living in the states my entire 19 years and haven't seen a single sex act on public TV. I've seen lots of innuendos and suggestions and sexual appeal, but never any sexual acts whatsoever. I've lived in California, Alaska, and Texas, have never seen anything of the sort, and as far as I know, its illegal in the united states.
 
I've seen plenty of nipples
On standard cable
And the F and S word as well

Who gets their morals
From watching these movies...?
 
It isnt in foreign countries. I went to norway last summer and saw Eyes wide shut, unedited, on public television.
 
Many people who see pornographic images of women view them as an object of pleasure. when this view is taken, it leads to disrespect for the woman and a longing for control. this leads to abuse and broken homes. now how is that a good thing for our nation?
 
abconners said:
All that kind of porno in movies leads to more masturbation, which is a terribly evil act that leaves you feeling selfish and empty. Imagine those movies that make an entire audience sexually arosed. do you realize how disgusting that is for someone to watch a screen and feel that way. I think it had gone wayyyyy too far when they show kate winslit nude in titanic. It was pg13 for crying out loud. It is unhealthy to be aroused by a damn false image.

I don't know about you, but I don't ever recall feeling selfish and empty. :laugh:

Anyway, the view of sex and sexual feelings as evil is a pretty extremist view which is thankfully losing ground in our society in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with sex or feelings related to it. It's perfectly natural and to deny that is to deny what we are as humans I think.
 
abconners said:
It isnt in foreign countries. I went to norway last summer and saw Eyes wide shut, unedited, on public television.
Now thats pretty bad...
I cant say i've ever
Seen anything that bad

I personally like to stay away
from most things like this

And if anyone bases their morals
On dumb movies, they need serious help
I like to think that most people
Base their beliefs on common sense

There is nothing wrong with sex or feelings related to it
I personally can not stand
this innate human feeling
towards the opposite sex
I personally would much prefer
Being asexual.
 
Neutrino said:
Anyway, the view of sex and sexual feelings as evil is a pretty extremist view which is thankfully losing ground in our society in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with sex or feelings related to it. It's perfectly natural and to deny that is to deny what we are as humans I think.


I'm not saying sex is a bad thing. in fact it is a very good thing when it is done in moderation. it is just when you have a society centered around sex it gets abused, and anything that is abused becomes a problem in that persons life, or prehaps an addiction. It becomes selfish, controled, and pointless when it is abused. Sex is meant for procreation and bonding between two people, not bonding between a guy and his television.
 
Ikerous said:
I personally can not stand
this innate human feeling
towards the opposite sex
I personally would much prefer
Being asexual.

That's fine. But it's still natural for most people to enjoy it.
 
abconners said:
When we lose our morals we don't care what is right and wrong and then you have another Nazi Germany. All you need to do to control people is to take away their sense of right and wrong.
ha... nazi germany arose not because there was too much sex on tv there. or because of any lack of morales, thats a terrible analogy; i suppose you could say hitler wasent a moral man though. regardless, our society is not really on the "downfall" ive come to realize, its just i see society becoming more and more liberal (esp in urban areas, its been that way since the revolution), which isnt a bad thing necessarily but it leads to this kind of open sexual thing... which isnt bad either, but its what youre concerned about.
 
gh0st said:
regardless, our society is not really on the "downfall" ive come to realize, its just i see society becoming more and more liberal .

Thats true, our society isn't in as bad of shape as many believe. The citizens still fight for the ideals of the country, which is good because they are based on freedom. Also society is made up of the individual, not a giant blob of similar thinking people. but sex is a powerful force that everyone has in common and when you give control of it to another, such as an entertainment industry, you give up a part of your freedom.
 
abconners said:
Thats true, our society isn't in as bad of shape as many believe. The citizens still fight for the ideals of the country, which is good because they are based on freedom. Also society is made up of the individual, not a giant blob of similar thinking people. but sex is a powerful force that everyone has in common and when you give control of it to another, such as an entertainment industry, you give up a part of your freedom.

But you have the choice to either watch it or not. No one is forcing anything on anybody.

For example, I personally don't like TV so I don't own one.
 
abconners said:
Thats true, our society isn't in as bad of shape as many believe. The citizens still fight for the ideals of the country, which is good because they are based on freedom. Also society is made up of the individual, not a giant blob of similar thinking people. but sex is a powerful force that everyone has in common and when you give control of it to another, such as an entertainment industry, you give up a part of your freedom.
who is letting them control it? i control the sex i have. sure, watching buttsecks on the tv makes me want to bang some girl, but thats what seperates the idiots from the rest of us. the idiots listen to advertising, they listen to media, whose sole objective in life is to pimp you for all youre worth, while the rest are able to filter out the shit from everything else. and yeah, no one is forcing you to be watching it, or even exposing it to people that much. if you dont like whats on tv, turn it off.
 
I don't watch much tv either. I sometimes think about renting a movie, but then i see the mongloids in the movie store and see what that waste of time does to you and I disdain. Although playing games is a waste as well, but not so much so as television. Atleast with games you have other people to talk to. Getting alittle off topic now so back to the discussion. Take a look at countries have become too liberal, such as Holland. In Amsterdam, they allow Euthanasia, drugs, abortion, and prostitution. I had a friend that went there a couple of years ago and he said a pimp tried to get his mom to become a prostitute. That is a society that has let it's morals go and choosen to indulge in the pleasures of life. Now how is that a positive thing?
 
masterbation is just like picking your nose; you try to do it when no one is looking.
 
gh0st said:
no, the more the merrier.
I agree.

Really, my country seems to be filled with a large number of prudes. I don't get it. I recently saw a web site that mentioned the Janet Jackson fiasco. You know, superbowl, tit, if anyone remembers? Okay, maybe not appropriate, but who cares? There was a whole bloody national uproar, and I was like, "What?! What the hell is everybody so upset by?"

I think things would be better witha free-er society. Sex is a part of (just about) everyones life. Why be so uptight about it? Doesn't make sense to me...

abconners said:
Sex not involving another physical person is never good,[...]
um, sorry, what do you mean? Are you refering to inanimate objects? hands? animals? or the toys designed for that purpose?

inanimate objects? well, what can i say against that? i mean, if you want to have sex with a chair, or a rubber ducky, why should I care? As long as you don't hurt the chair, and long as the ducky has consented, well... have at, I say.

hands? I'll never raise an issue with mastubation. I'm not that much of a hypocrite.
Just remember, you can hurt yourself if you do it too much. After 8 hours, remember to take a break.

Animals? I don't really want to think about that. That is pretty sick. Or, at least, it's *squick*, if you know what I mean.
I saw someone write once: "A dog is perfectly willing to hump your leg, who says they wouldn't want you too reciprocate?" [paraphrasing]

Well, my opinions mirror those of Dan Savage of the "Savage Love" advice column.
That said, LTDO, bestiality is one of the "big three" perversions that I'm simply never going to budge on. I will always disapprove of ****ing animals, molesting children, and eating poop.​
I wont link to it here, for there is some, uh, mixed content (obviously) I don't think they would want hotlinked from here. But you can search, he is rather damn funny at times.

Well, toys, same as masturbation. Nothing wrong with that.

As for which of those gets shown on TV, well, there's an issue of censorship. I can't say that I honestly appose it all. But I do think is rediculous is some of the incredibly stupid arbitrary little things that cannot be shown on TV. I am sometimes amased at the innuendo and sly sexual referances made by some TV shows. But at the same time, 1.46 seconds of Janet's Nipple makes national news? Come on....

That said, I don't really want to see.. um. frankfurters and tacos gratuitously flashed on the screen willy nilly. Willy frankfuters flapping about is not my idea of good TV. There does need to be a, hmm. standard of decency, I hesitate to call it.

We haven't reached it yet, IMO.

I hope I havent offended anyone, but considering the subject, there's a reasonable chance of that.
 
gh0st said:
who is letting them control it? i control the sex i have. sure, watching buttsecks on the tv makes me want to bang some girl, but thats what seperates the idiots from the rest of us. the idiots listen to advertising, they listen to media, whose sole objective in life is to pimp you for all youre worth, while the rest are able to filter out the shit from everything else. and yeah, no one is forcing you to be watching it, or even exposing it to people that much. if you dont like whats on tv, turn it off.

And there alot of idoits in our world.
 
abconners said:
In Amsterdam, they allow Euthanasia, drugs, abortion, and prostitution. I had a friend that went there a couple of years ago and he said a pimp tried to get his mom to become a prostitute. That is a society that has let it's morals go and choosen to indulge in the pleasures of life. Now how is that a positive thing?
let me preface that by saying "amsterdam kicks ass." that said, youre probably right, its not a positive thing. but what negative effects does it have? it likely makes for a happier populace. these things become regulated and allowed, thus the activities become safer. for example, if the government legalized marijuana, taxed it with a cheaper price than drug dealers, how does that negatively effect society? most people who dont smoke arent going to start smoking just because its okay with the government. it also gets rid of those drug dealers and the problems that arise with them. i personally am against abortion unless necessary for the womans (or males ;\) survival, yet if amsterdam likes it fine. unless you've been to amsterdam, it would be difficult for you to know what an awesome country it is.

by the way: amsterdam doesnt really have pimps, per se.
 
Phisionary said:
I agree.

Really, my country seems to be filled with a large number of prudes. I don't get it. I recently saw a web site that mentioned the Janet Jackson fiasco. You know, superbowl, tit, if anyone remembers? Okay, maybe not appropriate, but who cares? There was a whole bloody national uproar, and I was like, "What?! What the hell is everybody so upset by?"

I think things would be better witha free-er society. Sex is a part of (just about) everyones life. Why be so uptight about it? Doesn't make sense to me...

um, sorry, what do you mean? Are you refering to inanimate objects? hands? animals? or the toys designed for that purpose?

inanimate objects? well, what can i say against that? i mean, if you want to have sex with a chair, or a rubber ducky, why should I care? As long as you don't hurt the chair, and long as the ducky has consented, well... have at, I say.

hands? I'll never raise an issue with mastubation. I'm not that much of a hypocrite.
Just remember, you can hurt yourself if you do it too much. After 8 hours, remember to take a break.

Animals? I don't really want to think about that. That is pretty sick. Or, at least, it's *squick*, if you know what I mean.
I saw someone write once: "A dog is perfectly willing to hump your leg, who says they wouldn't want you too reciprocate?" [paraphrasing]

Well, my opinions mirror those of Dan Savage of the "Savage Love" advice column.
That said, LTDO, bestiality is one of the "big three" perversions that I'm simply never going to budge on. I will always disapprove of ****ing animals, molesting children, and eating poop.​
I wont link to it here, for there is some, uh, mixed content (obviously) I don't think they would want hotlinked from here. But you can search, he is rather damn funny at times.

Well, toys, same as masturbation. Nothing wrong with that.

As for which of those gets shown on TV, well, there's an issue of censorship. I can't say that I honestly appose it all. But I do think is rediculous is some of the incredibly stupid arbitrary little things that cannot be shown on TV. I am sometimes amased at the innuendo and sly sexual referances made by some TV shows. But at the same time, 1.46 seconds of Janet's Nipple makes national news? Come on....

That said, I don't really want to see.. um. frankfurters and tacos gratuitously flashed on the screen willy nilly. Willy frankfuters flapping about is not my idea of good TV. There does need to be a, hmm. standard of decency, I hesitate to call it.

We haven't reached it yet, IMO.

I hope I havent offended anyone, but considering the subject, there's a reasonable chance of that.


There are many weak people in this world who cant say no to sex and start abusing it. it becomes the biggest part of their life and thus they waste part of their life.
 
abconners said:
There are many weak people in this world who cant say no to sex and start abusing it. it becomes the biggest part of their life and thus they waste part of their life.
they would abuse it regardless what entertainment is shoving down their throat.
 
abconners said:
Many people who see pornographic images of women view them as an object of pleasure. when this view is taken, it leads to disrespect for the woman and a longing for control. this leads to abuse and broken homes. now how is that a good thing for our nation?


Yeah, that may be true, but what about the titantic thing you said? How is her posing nude for a portrait pornography? Heh. The naked body is a natural thing. Now if she was doing explicit things, that would be another story, but she wasn't, was she?
 
gh0st said:
let me preface that by saying "amsterdam kicks ass." that said, youre probably right, its not a positive thing. but what negative effects does it have? it likely makes for a happier populace. these things become regulated and allowed, thus the activities become safer. for example, if the government legalized marijuana, taxed it with a cheaper price than drug dealers, how does that negatively effect society? most people who dont smoke arent going to start smoking just because its okay with the government. it also gets rid of those drug dealers and the problems that arise with them. i personally am against abortion unless necessary for the womans (or males ;\) survival, yet if amsterdam likes it fine. unless you've been to amsterdam, it would be difficult for you to know what an awesome country it is.

by the way: amsterdam doesnt really have pimps, per se.

Weed is a gate way drug. Im saying that out of experience. I had friends, all of whom smoked weed, who decided to start doing shrooms. Then they would start putting cocaine on top of their bowls, or powdering them. In Amsterdam, there are an epidemic number of herion additcs and cocaine users. Corruption is running rampant. How is it a good thing to have your life focused entirely on destructive behavior?
 
Raziaar said:
Yeah, that may be true, but what about the titantic thing you said? How is her posing nude for a portrait pornography? Heh. The naked body is a natural thing. Now if she was doing explicit things, that would be another story, but she wasn't, was she?

Sex is something that should be between you and the person who your doing it to. But seriously, it should be a very personal thing between two people and no one else. That titanic thing was not showing the art anyway, they just wanted to show the boobie to make more money. why do you think it made so much? And we knew what kate and leo did after that.
 
abconners said:
I don't watch much tv either. I sometimes think about renting a movie, but then i see the mongloids in the movie store and see what that waste of time does to you and I disdain. Although playing games is a waste as well, but not so much so as television. Atleast with games you have other people to talk to. Getting alittle off topic now so back to the discussion. Take a look at countries have become too liberal, such as Holland. In Amsterdam, they allow Euthanasia, drugs, abortion, and prostitution. I had a friend that went there a couple of years ago and he said a pimp tried to get his mom to become a prostitute. That is a society that has let it's morals go and choosen to indulge in the pleasures of life. Now how is that a positive thing?

I just wanted to clear up that the reason I don't watch TV is I find there to be very little quality programming on and I think it is mostly a waste of time that provides little enjoyment for me.

As for Amsterdamn, it sounds like a nice place overall. I don't know if I agree with legal drug use, but aside from that I'm not really seeing a problem there.
 
Neutrino said:
I just wanted to clear up that the reason I don't watch TV is I find there to be very little quality programming on and I think it is mostly a waste of time that provides little enjoyment for me.

As for Amsterdamn, it sounds like a nice place overall. I don't know if I agree with legal drug use, but aside from that I'm not really seeing a problem there.
There are epidemic drug addictions, euthanasis, and prostitution.
 
abconners said:
Weed is a gate way drug. Im saying that out of experience. I had friends, all of whom smoked weed, who decided to start doing shrooms. Then they would start putting cocaine on top of their bowls, or powdering them. In Amsterdam, there are an epidemic number of herion additcs and cocaine users. Corruption is running rampant. How is it a good thing to have your life focused entirely on destructive behavior?
weed isnt a gateway drug, i know because i and a bunch of my friends smoke. and drink. i'm not going to do anything 'worse' than marijuana, because they and i arent stupid. youre friends dont accurately portray society. holland has fewer drug abusers per thousand than france, and spain. they certainly dont have any epidemic. youre wrong, heroine and cocain and other 'hard drugs' are forbidden in holland, id like to see where you got that fact from or if you just made it up.
 
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