Secession

[Raziaar]

There is a storm of talk about the possibility of secession. From the nutjobs on the internet's most conservative forums, to the people participating in these Tea Parties... to elected officials such as Governor Rick Perry of Texas.

There has always been talk about secession, but this is a time where it's gaining especially high mention.

Republicans and conservatives have only been out of power for a few months now, and they want to secede? They want to break up their beloved America, sending it into destructive chaos. At least when liberals lost, they only threatened to leave the country, rather than actually dissolve America.

What are your thoughts about the possibility of Secession in the United States?

I'm personally a little terrified of the thought. I live here in Texas, and I'm worried these ****ers, if they seceded, would never let me leave.

 

[Maturin]

And liberals were unpatriotic for criticizing the Iraq War. Unbelievable.

After hijacking the definition of fascism and socialism, they have changed patriotism into some sort of discriminatory self-adulation.

It's only fair that we get to change marriage a little. It was done a little while ago with interracial unions, I recall.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Texas forming its own nation would be hilarious.

Visit Texas! We have sand!

 

[Mr-Fusion]

Secession in America would be terrible for Americas power. That's virtually the entire army gone because only hicks from Texas fight the wars right?

Countries like China would be rubbing their hands in glee at the thought of such a superpower crumbling from within. Because of a few states who can't see the enormous benefit of being one country instead of many....

Washington should rule its surrounding lands with the same iron fisted approach that Beijing has. Or else you'll get these shithole primitive shitfest lands like Tibet falling into idiot control. Texas will be the new Tibet.

Lets riot against a country that brings us education, modern technology and law!! YEAH!! Instead we want to be primitive idiots that harvest the skulls of virgin toddlers!

Free Texas!

Titor proves his wisdom once more.

 

[Maturin]

It will never happen simply because the Texans would never dare prove that crackpot Ruskie scientist right.

 

[Raziaar]

Texas isn't the only state that has people talking about secession from the states. There's quite a few others that are receiving more serious discussion.

I doubt any of them will get anywhere, but it is a worrying prospect that these ****ing idiots would choose to jeopardize the security of this nation and fight within simply because they don't like a black president who still has taxes lower than their beloved Reagan. And their deluded beliefs that Obama is Hitler or Stalin or some shit... which I have heard NUMEROUS people over on right wing forums like hannity.com say.

 

[G(ordon)-man]

Yes, that is the problem of US. There are states, what own more power than most of the countries in here. Also there are very big cultural differences in US, mainly between south and north. But I truly hope that it won't happen. USA is the only power keeping Estonia being annihilated by Russians for the millionth time.

 

[Operational]

right wing forums like hannity.com

That place is weird, a lot of them keep talking about how Obama is ruining the constitution... what are they talking about?

It wasn't all bad, there are some intelligent conservative posters which, unfortunately, is a viewpoint you really don't hear any more.

 

[Ravioli]

oh please god dont bring these ****ing idiots with their american pleague (Republicans/Conservatives/everything bad about america) to europe please please oh god dont let them poison these beautiful lands.

 

[Tyguy]

ravioli lives inside of an ATM, lol

 

[CptStern]

There is a storm of talk about the possibility of secession. From the nutjobs on the internet's most conservative forums, to the people participating in these Tea Parties... to elected officials such as Governor Rick Perry of Texas.

There has always been talk about secession, but this is a time where it's gaining especially high mention.

Republicans and conservatives have only been out of power for a few months now, and they want to secede? They want to break up their beloved America, sending it into destructive chaos. At least when liberals lost, they only threatened to leave the country, rather than actually dissolve America.

What are your thoughts about the possibility of Secession in the United States?

I'm personally a little terrified of the thought. I live here in Texas, and I'm worried these ****ers, if they seceded, would never let me leave.

"I may run for president of Texas."

That need may be a reality sooner than we think. If not me, someone someday may again be running for president of the Lone Star state, if the state of the union continues to turn into the enemy of the state.

From the East Coast to the "Left Coast," America seems to be moving further and further from its founders' vision and government."

- Chuck Norris

http://halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=152727




if texas does secede from the union it'll become a haven for every right wing extremist, religious fanatic, gun nut in the US. This might actually be a good thing (I suggest nuking from orbit once the mass migration is complete) ...unless you live in texas and are none of the above.

 

[Maturin]

oh please god dont bring these ****ing idiots with their american pleague (Republicans/Conservatives/everything bad about america) to europe please please oh god dont let them poison these beautiful lands.

Our political crazies are boy scouts compared to what you Europeans cook up. There's just less of a cultural base for them on the right bank of the pond.

 

[CptStern]

hell no, your political crazies get caught soliciting gay sex from police officers in public restrooms or get caught with underage boys doing crack or get caught dressed in women's clothing while having sex with male patrons in a porn store

State Rep. Richard Curtis, R-La Center, admitted to having sex with a man he met at an adult video store in Spokane last week

The police report contains an account of how Curtis allegedly donned women's clothing, red stockings and a black sequined lingerie top before engaging in a sex act at the store. He then continued to wear them throughout the night under his clothing, the report says."

the more conservative they are the more likely they are to have a 12 year old bound and gagged in the trunk of their car

 

[dfc05]

This is all just ridiculous, people just like to say a lot of crap.

The 'tea party' thing was stupid. I heard that over here (Austin) they just got cardboard boxes, wrote "TEA" on the side, tossed them in the river/lake, and then went out in a boat to fetch the boxes so they wouldn't trash up the river. These people seriously need to find better things to do with their time.

 

[Vigilante]

It's a shame Texas has so many resources, otherwise I'd have no problem with it.

 

[Solaris]

Give us Nasa back.

 

[Top Secret]

Texas cannot legally secede from the United States without the approval of Congress. It is a myth that simply won't die yet southern extremists attempt to keep it alive to fuel their movement.

 

[Kadayi]

Republicans, bunch of whinny ****ing losers. Were there remotely any people of colour or ethnicity at any of these Tea Parties? Not from what I could see.

http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001183/

That made me laugh. Basically 'protecting our Sovereignty' translates as 'We aint playing unless you play by our rules' but the guy would never actually say the words. The same way that if he never calls a black man a Coon, he'll never be marked as a racist....:dozey:

if texas does secede from the union it'll become a haven for every right wing extremist, religious fanatic, gun nut in the US. This might actually be a good thing (I suggest nuking from orbit once the mass migration is complete) ...unless you live in texas and are none of the above.

It would be frankly ****ing hilarious. I'd love to see Rick Perry try, just to watch the whole escapade blow up in his face.

 

[15357]

If Texas did seceed, would it mean civil war or is Obama too soft for that?

 

[Kadayi]

If Texas did seceed, would it mean civil war or is Obama too soft for that?

It would never happen. Rick Perry is talking shit at the end of the day. Even if he himself wanted to, I doubt he'd be able to instigate it, or whether the vast Majority of Texans would remotely agree to it. Its a hollow threat and frankly stupid talk that does little more than garner his some right wing 'committed/hardcore' brownie points for when he no doubt puts himself up as a GOP presidential candidate a few years from now: -

"we were on the cusp of fascist tyranny in 2009 and I'd have been prepared to secede my State if necessary to combat it, that's why yall should vote for me, Rick Perry in (insert year)!!!" :dozey:

 

[Warped]

i think its a little premature.

 

[<RJMC>]

I guess it wouldnt be very welcomed in the rest of the country

after seeing how things are here in spain whit catalunya and such,the reason I see why there havent been a conflict for independence is cuz they know its not a good idea and the first civil war was a sign of it
and also cuz patriotism is very low here so some people dont care about indepence of theyr supossed true nations just like they dont care about the goverment at all
and indepence thinking is mostly used by ultra-left wing people that dream of a couminist country that will repel the monarchies and capitalism in europe

however we are talking about the usa here so things may be diferent

secession seem to be becoming the new fashion of this century

I wonder if that subject will be in the new call of duty game

 

[gFrohman]

I sure as hell hope not - I'm going to Texas for grad school in August, and I don't want to be in the middle of some secessionist bs.

 

[Saturos]

Texas cannot legally secede from the United States without the approval of Congress. It is a myth that simply won't die yet southern extremists attempt to keep it alive to fuel their movement.

That's just plain silly. Why would Congress approve a "secession" and why would any state(s) need it's approval? It's in the constitution that any state can legally secede if the institution no longer follows what's written and if any state leaders were crazy enough to try it, then they would even if it's not written. After all, they no longer wanted to be a part of the US anymore anyways, so why would they need approval? Your point is moot.

Texas governor: We, the people of the Lone Star state no longer wish to be under socialist crazy Obama's regime, so we're seceding. Screw you all! We'll just steal the state of Texas and all it's resources and start our own nation!

U.S. Congress: Mr. Texas governor, our approval comes by a landslide, you can have Texas and all it's billion-dollar industries!

Texas governor: Woo-hoo!


See how ridiculous this sounds?


The results would be the same either way though. (i.e. the US invades and takes it back) They'll have a hell of a time staying "seceded" because Uncle Sam wouldn't like it too much.

Of course they can secede without congress' approval, but the repercussions would be just like during the last U.S. Civil War, except that with today's military it wouldn't last four years, just four hours. LOL

 

[staticprimer]

I agree with this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLz7XQOIOQ

 

[MiccyNarc]

That's just plain silly. Why would Congress approve a "secession" and why would any state(s) need it's approval? It's in the constitution that any state can legally secede if the institution no longer follows what's written and if any state leaders were crazy enough to try it, then they would even if it's not written. After all, they no longer wanted to be a part of the US anymore anyways, so why would they need approval? Your point is moot.

Texas governor: We, the people of the Lone Star state no longer wish to be under socialist crazy Obama's regime, so we're seceding. Screw you all! We'll just steal the state of Texas and all it's resources and start our own nation!

U.S. Congress: Mr. Texas governor, our approval comes by a landslide, you can have Texas and all it's billion-dollar industries!

Texas governor: Woo-hoo!


See how ridiculous this sounds?


The results would be the same either way though. (i.e. the US invades and takes it back) They'll have a hell of a time staying "seceded" because Uncle Sam wouldn't like it too much.

Of course they can secede without congress' approval, but the repercussions would be just like during the last U.S. Civil War, except that with today's military it wouldn't last four years, just four hours. LOL

texas has a large number of military bases. There would be a fight, and while texas would lose eventually, it wouldn't be a walk in the park for the rest of the US military.
the biggest affect it would have would the chaos it would cause in the rest of the US.

 

[The Monkey]

I think America would benefit from a secession. The South does nobody any good. Just get out the few sane individuals there are (like the cow man) and let the rest of them do as they wish.

 

[Sir Phoenixx]

texas has a large number of military bases. There would be a fight, and while texas would lose eventually, it wouldn't be a walk in the park for the rest of the US military.
the biggest affect it would have would the chaos it would cause in the rest of the US.

From what I understand (if someone who knows more about the military could correct me if I'm wrong...), they're not Texas' military bases, they're the US government's military bases that just happened to be located in Texas. If Texas were to seceede, it's possible some of the soldiers/commanders/generals/etc. might defect to Texas (and try to take a base for themselves) to support them in opposition to the US government, but Texas' government wouldn't automatically get full control over the US government's military bases just because they're located in their state.

 

[Saturos]

texas has a large number of military bases. There would be a fight, and while texas would lose eventually, it wouldn't be a walk in the park for the rest of the US military.
the biggest affect it would have would the chaos it would cause in the rest of the US.

Ultimately though, the ones who'll suffer the most are the citizens. Both the short-lived, newly established Texan republic citizens and the U.S.

From what I understand (if someone who knows more about the military could correct me if I'm wrong...), they're not Texas' military bases, they're the US government's military bases that just happened to be located in Texas. If Texas were to seceede, it's possible some of the soldiers/commanders/generals/etc. might defect to Texas (and try to take a base for themselves) to support them in opposition to the US government, but Texas' government wouldn't automatically get full control over the US government's military bases just because they're located in their state.

^agree

 

[Raziaar]

I agree with this guy:

LOL, that guy has a great voice. Kind of reminds me of Troy McClure, voiced by the late Phil Hartman.

I think America would benefit from a secession. The South does nobody any good. Just get out the few sane individuals there are (like the cow man) and let the rest of them do as they wish.

Yay! But really, I don't think any state should secede.

 

[VirusType2]

A country united is strongest.

The quickest way to unite a country or region is to attack it with an outside force.

:scare-monger conspiracy music:

The US government knows this.

 

[Kadayi]

Saw this and thought of this thread:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJKpsUq9IY

Keith Olbermann is quality

Rick Perry is an asshat. I hope Obama publicly calls him on this Secession talk just to see the ****er capitulate

 

[unozero]

I can see why someone like you would like Olbermann...

 

[Eejit]

Didn't you say your primary new source was drudgereport? I don't think you're in any position to be making smart remarks.

 

[Kadayi]

I can see why someone like you would like Olbermann...

If I even knew who you were I might even care. :dozey:

 

[leib10]

Rick Perry is a moron.

 

[Shakermaker]

EDIT Meh for not being able to post pics here.

 

[unozero]

Didn't you say your primary new source was drudgereport? I don't think you're in any position to be making smart remarks.

all drudge report does, is link headlines from different sources including MSNBC.



try again.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

If I even knew who you were I might even care. :dozey:

And thats why he is on my ignore list

 

[Sparta]

all drudge report does, is link headlines from different sources including MSNBC.

Yeah thats totally what they did with Ashley Todd. Lots of links to other headlines in their original article on that. Definitely.