Half-life 2 character may be killed off.

I agree that we haven't seen enough of most of the characters yet.
 
We've seen enough of Barney. We've seen him through Half-Life 1 (the collective Barneys, even though they weren't Calhoun), we've played as him in Blue Shift, we've had memorable scenes with him in Half-Life 2 and even fought alongside him, and we did the same in Episode One. We also learned more about Gordon and Barney's relationship at Black Mesa through Alyx. We have the measure of his personality, we know that he and Gordon are good friends, and the player has already developed a significant attachment to him.

I'm ready and waiting to set the funeral pyre and sing a sad song about him. Got my tissues and mourning clothes at hand.

Gordon-Shephard said:
and that's why I'm leaving the forum.
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Aw don't be that way. I've got so much love to give.

:laugh:
 
Alyx will die right at the beginning, and then you will sometimes see her mysteriously appaering and disappaering the entire episode like G-Man. :borg:
 
Yeah and we'll see post from n00bs mysteriously materialising too.
 
Dog dies, and becomes one with the suit. You're both faster and stronger, and you're able to lift trucks.


Also, Alyx wont leave you alone ever.

>_>
<_<
 
Darkside55 said:
We've seen enough of Barney. We've seen him through Half-Life 1 (the collective Barneys, even though they weren't Calhoun), we've played as him in Blue Shift, we've had memorable scenes with him in Half-Life 2 and even fought alongside him, and we did the same in Episode One. We also learned more about Gordon and Barney's relationship at Black Mesa through Alyx. We have the measure of his personality, we know that he and Gordon are good friends, and the player has already developed a significant attachment to him.

I'm ready and waiting to set the funeral pyre and sing a sad song about him. Got my tissues and mourning clothes at hand.
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we musnt give up... BARNEY WILL LIVE!! and if he doesent... ;( i will eat a doughnut and drink some coffee and beer :cheers: in his honer... anyone else with me?

if not ill eat a doughnut and drink some beer anyway...mmmm...beer...:rolling:
 
I'm not a drinkin' man, but I'll drink to Barney if (when) he goes. It's only proper, and it's what Freeman would do.

Sigmus said:
Dog dies, and becomes one with the suit. You're both faster and stronger, and you're able to lift trucks.
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I gots my eye on you. -_- (Welcome to the forums btw)
 
Kleiner - Cough* i see the light....Barney, Lammar now belongs to you. Take care of her, aaargh *dies*
Barney - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
kupoartist said:
Eli Vance: A good candidate for death as he is probably the character the player and characters within the game are most attached to, without all the time investure and future plot potential that Alyx has. Quite possibly killed to develop Alyx because of that.

Issac Kliener: There is no real good reason why not, just that it doesn't seem right somehow. Don't kill the comic relief valve! Though it would be amusing to have Barney become Lamar's adopted father...
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I'm going to go back and second these two with the knowledge that the new NPC will be a "Black Mesa survivor". There's a very good chance that such a survivor will be a science team member, and thus these two have just become less unique. That new character could well replace either in the BM duo dynamic.
 
AJ Rimmer said:
And he is literally the only person in HL2 who went through what Gordon did in BMRF.
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Shephard did....He went through more if I'm not mistaken (longer game)


It would suck if the Character from Blackmesa that Valve brings back dies in the same episode lol
 
If, as Valve puts it, "nobody will survive the war unscathed" then I think the killed off person would have to be Eli, which in turn would hurt Alyx... Otherwise Alyx indeed would be mostly unscathed from the war.. Physical pain can be nothing compared to emotional pain; they'd somehow need to hurt Alyx to make their statement come true.. that leaves Gordon or Eli...

I think Kleiner is too essential to developing the technology that will be needed to somehow "win" the entire HL series.. the loss of Eli would also hurt him deeply, as they are obviously close friends.

Plus Eli isn't really as necessary a character, nor attached to HL1 and the story like Kleiner and Barney are... Barney getting killed? I sincerely doubt it, but who knows.
 
Well, I for one, after reading all of this, still have some questions. In my opinion it's okay if Valve kills off a character-it's their story, and they can develop it how they like. But what I'm wondering is how will the character die? Let's use Barney, as Darkside is damn good at convincing people, but don't you think it would be a massive let down if he just died in some predictable, obvious way? Like 'oh crap Barney's dead!' 'How?' 'Uh... Strider?' So, what I'm thinking is that the character's end-scene will have to be epic, incredible and awesome. And sad. So Valve invents some crazy awesome new Combine synth that comes to earth to reinforce them and Barney or whoever gets wasted by it. Voila, plot progression, new enemy and some instant fear of whatever it is.

And, who else is totally amped about D0g vs. Strider?
 
IF Alyx got killed, it would be interesting to see Eli's anger, withdrawal, etc. To see a sympathetic character turned upside down would be powerful indeed.

Having Barney killed? It's definitely a possibility. But, I would rather have EP2, or 3 with Barney consistently at your side and then they kill him in a future installment. Either way, if Barney dies, I would like to see another character there as well, to see their emotions and reactions. But it might be more emotive if it was a private death, only observed by Gordon. Whoever dies, I trust Valve will do it well, and they better do it well.

Also, it raises the question of when the death will take place, the beginning, the end, or inbetween parts of EP2. If it happened at the end, perhaps the death of a character would make the ending more meaningful.
 
Eli will probably be killed off. The emotional connection between the player and alyx will enhance if this is done
 
Well , i think Alyx will , die because Dog will go berserk and smash up combine and everything , THAT would be awesome, and then eventually dog finds that strider ... in the woods , while you watch the destruction take place!
 
Alyx's death would be very sad, but it's too early for that. Valve spent the whole of Episode One building her up and it wouldn't make much sense to just do away with her. It'd be very emotional as the player is supposed to have a close connection to her (or in theory at least) but I think what is more likely is that we'd see Alyx in peril with Gordon's role as the saviour rather than her dying.
Samon said:
I think it will be Barney. I can't see Mossman dying, as I believe she'll have a role to play in Episode 3. Kleiner...no, absolutely not, Kleiner cannot die. Eli? Possibly, it'd have an impact on Alyx and the resistance, but I feel I've seen too little of Eli and I'm not quite ready to see him go.

I honestly can't see Alyx going either. And definately not Dog. I feel Barney has played his part. He's rallied the resistance into open war against the Combine and he helped evacuate the City.

Please don't kill Kleiner. :(
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With Barney it would be a shame (perwonally I love him) but he simply isn't integral enough for it to have enough impact on the story. Usually if you kill off a character, it has to have a large impact and I don't think Barney is that influential.
You may feel he's "seved his purpose", but that's no reason to kill a character off. Killing off a major character is a plot device to alter the course of the events and the other characters' emotional stability or lack thereof. Barney's death would be very sad, but wouldn't contain enough dramatic impact on the plot to be much more than a token gesture.

NJspeed said:
If, as Valve puts it, "nobody will survive the war unscathed" then I think the killed off person would have to be Eli, which in turn would hurt Alyx...
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My thoughts exactly. Alyx is more central to the plot than Eli, plus his death would have be evastating to Mossman and Kleiner as well as Alyx. Moreover, as he has been one of the most important figureheads of the resistance, his death would be extremely symbolic as a Combine victory and would have repercussions on the resistance - would it galvanise them and give them more bile to fight back with, or would it crush the spirits?
I'd hate to see Eli go but it would make more sense, from a story-telling perspective, to kill him than Barney.
 
el Chi said:
With Barney it would be a shame (perwonally I love him) but he simply isn't integral enough for it to have enough impact on the story. Usually if you kill off a character, it has to have a large impact and I don't think Barney is that influential. You may feel he's "seved his purpose", but that's no reason to kill a character off. Killing off a major character is a plot device to alter the course of the events and the other characters' emotional stability or lack thereof. Barney's death would be very sad, but wouldn't contain enough dramatic impact on the plot to be much more than a token gesture.
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Were only on Episode 2 though. I'm sure a character or two will be going in 3.
 
But if you want it to make a more lasting impact, Ep two would be a good time to get rid of a character.
 
Yes it will...old guy fighting for a better good, plus he's the father to one of the most important characters...that's a typical "guy who gets killed" profile...not to mention he's black, and although I hate this cliche...anyone who watches horror slashers and the type knows their likely fate.
 
Well ok, who should be killed off to make it less cliched?
 
Alyx, I guess...I mean who'd imagine the female protagonist and possible romantic interest of Gordon would end up killed off?
 
Why do i see it playing out like this...

Eli: Hey Gordon Man how you doing mate?
Gordon: I am not your mate...
Eli: Eli come on man loosen up
Gordon: Shut up.
Eli: But...
Gordon: Argh!

*Whacks Eli repeatedly with his crowbar*

So guys think I could write the half life storyline. :p

My bets are on Eli or Barney. Barney because he is one of the combat NPCs and could be easily killed off by having a combine drop-ship land on him in battle or Eli because... Well he's had so many close calls being in Nova Prospekt and in Breen's grasp. :)
 
The_Great_Walter said:
Alyx, I guess...I mean who'd imagine the female protagonist and possible romantic interest of Gordon would end up killed off?
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Yeah that may be less cliched, but in the long run its a complete waste of a character. Alyx made EP1 a lot more interesting, not to mention Valve have spent the largest amount of time creating and guiding Alyx than any of the others, killing her will be very upsetting to a lot of players, but the actual storyline? Hardly anything, Eli will be crushed, but since we dont care for Eli as we do Alyx, no player will feel anymore emotion for him, the resistance will carry on, and that will be that. It will be the waste of a character that could be continued to develop, as she is the primary emitter of emotion.

Killing Eli on the other hand will crush Alyx, since most players care for Alyx, it will be very emotional for them. Also, it would be a great opportunity in expanding Alyx's character with her reaction to her farther's death, how will she cope? What will she do? Will we see a darker side to her? Also, it would be a hugely significant part to play in the storyline, as it would act as a great victory for the combine against the resistance, and would leave the resistance with little or no moral left and without a leader.

So it may be more cliched, but its effects will be far greater and would definately spice the story up.
 
Killing Eli is the obvious choice, and I don't like it. At least not for Episode 2 anyway.
 
I agree, killing Eli would actually help the story develop more & make it much more interesting. The death of Eli Vance would coicide with Alyx & therefore setting off a darker side of her. Alyx would also want revenge against the combine, she would have a will to fight the dark iron grip of the combine other than to free humanity.

Alyx would also draw closer to Gordon, the death of Eli Vance can act as further character development for Ms. Vance, but seeing G-man with Alyx raises new question marks which can make the story interesting as well.

If it isn't Eli, it would be the one Darkside suggested...Barney Calhoun! :D
 
If i am being completely honest, I will be let down if Barney is the one to die, not because i would be upset, because i felt that they wasted the opportunity. Barney, as many people have mentioned, does not serve a role great enough to have a significant impact on the storyline. But him dieing would be upsetting if valve can create the perfect why of logging him off. Wait and see... (unfortunately, a long wait >.<)
 
Mossman, or then someone else. But in EP2 trailer she seems to be in serious trouble, so who knows.

Kleiner should not die, he is just one of the best characters. I like the voice and that how he is bit of funny in some things.

I'm not sure about Eli, then Alyx would be shocked and then Gordon would be the only long-time friend of Kleiner. And Combine just trapped Eli and put him to Nova Prospekt, instead of killing him. It is bit of weird. Would be fun if he gets trapped again and put to Nova Prospekt again, that chapter was kind of interesting, old prison combine-fied. But you were almost able to see Citadel from BM East, so if the explosion was really big Ravenholm and coast have maybe erased, and there is no Nova Prospekt anymore.

I think Valve wants Alyx to be alive, she has popular character, in HL2 you met her many times and you are with her all the time in Episode One.

Odessa Cubbage is gonna die...:D Or he will escape to Borealis.
 
Shift said:
If i am being completely honest, I will be let down if Barney is the one to die, not because i would be upset, because i felt that they wasted the opportunity. Barney, as many people have mentioned, does not serve a role great enough to have a significant impact on the storyline. But him dieing would be upsetting if valve can create the perfect why of logging him off. Wait and see... (unfortunately, a long wait >.<)
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Were only on Episode 2. You'd be justified in what you say if it were Episode 3, but it isn't.
 
Well I can see people making threads in the Episode Two forum telling us who loves. 'Alyx dies!' in the thread title, whilst appearing on the 'last post' bit on the index of the forum.
 
I think that Dr. Kleiner is teh best person to kill, simply because 99% of people seem to be conviced that he will live.
 
Yeah that would just be confusing, if he died i would left baffled more than anything
 
Well i dunno, out of all the characters that could have died, and they choose Dr. Kliener, doesn't make any sense to me, wont really make much impact on the players emotions or the sotryline really.
 
It would make much more of a story impact than Alyx, Barney or Dog dieing and I'd be more upset to see Kleiner dead that Alyx TBH.
 
It'd certainly be sad if they killed that poor old man. Out of everyone he's the nicest and most cheerful person, and the only one who doesn't seem displaced by the events around him. He's maintained his aloofness, eccentricity, and upbeat attitude through an alien invasion, a war, hostile alien occupation, another war, and the destruction of a major metropolitan area.

Killing Kleiner would be depressing.
 
Suppose, but I really have a feeling its gonna be Barney or most likely Eli
 
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