Deus Ex Human Revolution

[Gargantou]

Did you end with like 40,000 credits?

At the end I did have 40,000 and then I had bought all the Praxis, several mods and all the stungun and tranq. rifle ammo that was available in all the stores.

So yeah, I totally went overkill on money-whoring.

 

[StarBob]

At the end I did have 40,000 and then I had bought all the Praxis, several mods and all the stungun and tranq. rifle ammo that was available in all the stores.

So yeah, I totally went overkill on money-whoring.

I tried telling you that the natural play gives you roughly as much as you need if you do the side quests.

 

[jimbo118]

So I decided to throw a cardboard box at someone today in Hengsha. The smallest version. The woman died from the hit

My one and only fatality so far.

Btw, I'm addicted to hacking. Can't walk past any computer, door, safe etc if it's hackable.

 

[Gargantou]

I tried telling you that the natural play gives you roughly as much as you need if you do the side quests.

I know, but I still don't regret it!

But as I said, I won't do it again on my next playthrough.

 

[Unfocused]

The music in this game is generally fantastic, but I really like a piece from the ambient music that's not even on the soundtrack (from what I see; I don't have the collector's edition) - the music in the Hengsha sewers. That chime-y motif which starts around 1:05 is what got my attention.

 

[ríomhaire]

Ok so I have two questions for anyone who's beaten the third boss fight. Also I'm continuing my narrative of gameplay:

Spoiler

So when the Queen Bitch (I don't recall her actual name) pointed the remote at Jensen and tried to turn him off nothing happened and she ran away. I assume this is because I never went to a LIMB clinic to get my bio-chip replaced due to the "glitch". What happens in that scene if you actually did get the new chip installed?

Also, after you beat the boss and meet Megan Malik showed up for me and airlifted all four scientists to safety. What happens to the scientists if you didn't save Malik?


Ok for the Singapore level I went no-kill mode again. Turned off the signal jammer without being spotted (shot out the camera with the silenced pistol then waited for them to exit alert mode and snuck in). Didn't even knock anyone out. Knocked out plenty of people while finding the three scientists though.

For the Irish one I noticed seats all surrounding his surgery and what was clearly the Queen Bitch's throne. I was thinking of putting a frag mine on it for the laugh but then I decided to save it. They were very useful for the previous boss and I might want them again.

The "high security" area was a bit stupid (high-security seems to mean one camera, one bot and two normal footsoldiers and of course I just hacked the bot to kill the two soldiers) and the distraction seemed entirely unnecessary. That area seemed a but unfinished (especially when they just reused the same idea from the docks for the distraction).

The scene where the Queen Bitch failed to turn me off was funny but I must say the third boss fight was by far the easiest of the three for me. All I did was cloak (I upgraded my cloak to full mid-mission), run to a corner, toss a frag mine around back where I came from, wait for him to trip up on it and then laser him in the face. Laser-headshotting him stunned him further leaving me able to do it for a long time doing shitloads of damage. Also every time he threw a gas grenade (where does he pull them from?) I could safely ignore it because I have the upgrade that makes me immune to gas (funnily enough, he doesn't). I decided not to bother taking his plasma rifle after the fight. I'd have to drop my trusty laser gun and it had just served me very well and I still had a full clip and bit left.

Then onto Megan Reed. Ok I just want to get out of the way that her room is just creepy. Why is everything white? Why does she have a crash test dummy? I thought my graphics card might have broken for a second because all of my colour was gone. She must be ****ing crazy. Why the hell did I ever marry her? So from looking at the emails around the level (other than the ones relating to animal porn) I had figured that the chips had something to do with mental manipulation. But for some reason I had the impression that it would be something like emotional control. Control people by say making them all ecstatic during a political rally from one guy and hate for the other guy and shit like that. What Darrow did was really a surprise and it certainly explains why there are so few mechanically augmented people around by the time of Deus Ex (the only ones I can remember are Anna, Gunther and the bartender in Hell's Kitchen (also Jojo but a character says all his augmentations are cosmetic). Also interesting how Adam's DNA seems to be the key to creating nano-augmentation. I knew it had to come up somewhere in the game.

Something I forgot to mention last time was are they going to explain how everyone gets Adam's frequency? It seems to have turned into a running gag. "You're a super soldier type you figure it out." "Ancient Chinese secret". Onwards to the Arctic!

 

[Acepilotf14]

Ok so I have two questions for anyone who's beaten the third boss fight. Also I'm continuing my narrative of gameplay:

Spoiler

So when the Queen Bitch (I don't recall her actual name) pointed the remote at Jensen and tried to turn him off nothing happened and she ran away. I assume this is because I never went to a LIMB clinic to get my bio-chip replaced due to the "glitch". What happens in that scene if you actually did get the new chip installed?

Spoiler

This happens. She shuts off your augs and you essentially have to fight him without any. I knew something like this would happen, it was trope 101, but I got the chip anyway. Why?
In the end this fight was a lot more fun because it felt like I was trying to survive instead of just wiping the floor with him. I was absolutely terrified the whole fight and while I got kind of mad when I was doing decently the fact I had no radar, no cloak, practically no sight, made the whole thing so much more ambient and interesting and made the fight pretty much awesome and far more difficult.

It made me realize just how much I'd come to rely on those augs.

 

[Krynn72]

Spoiler

Another cool thing about having all your augs turn off is that you have no idea how much health or ammo you have. I knew something bad was going to happen when I got the chip, but I did it anyways since I wanted to see what it was. Pretty cool, though it makes that boss a sonofabitch to beat.

 

[Bad^Hat]

So I just played the first bit before you go to China, sitting on 10 hours played, game's pretty ****ing swank so far. Thanks again to Nabobalis for generously gifting me his extra copy!

Thought I'd go against the grain a bit and go balls-out weapons-heavy assault guy instead of doing the typical sneaky thing. Gotta be honest, it almost feels like I'm cheating at times. Playing on "give me a challenge" so I still go down from a second or two of sustained fire, but as long as I use cover smartly and remember to pop pills when I'm low I'm basically unstoppable most of the time. Also put some points into hacking so I can disable just about any security system, meaning I get free reign to explore just about anywhere and pick up all the items and ammo that you might miss out on by sneaking on by. For weapons I'm sticking with my 10mm pistol, assault rifle and shotgun (this thing is a BEAST with the double-shot upgrade), and I always have at least two boxes spare ammo for all of them. Also I just grabbed my second inventory upgrade and started hauling a rocket launcher around for boss fights. First one went down like a chump.

Only complaints so far: the game chugs a lot when I'm first loading into an area, and sometimes just at random when I'm moving around the city hubs. Performance is fine in self-contained mission areas, so I'm assuming this is a memory thing, loading in textures or something. My computer is showing it's age a bit though, so I can't really blame that one on the game. Secondly, the dialogue and voice acting is um... pretty damn hammy a lot of the time. I just had the conversation with Sarif where you confront him about the [spoiler thing], and I cringed all the way through it. Doesn't help that he sounds like the broest bro who ever broed, but while I don't really mind Jensen's super-gravelly voice, you can really hear the VA forcing it at times and it takes you right out of the moment. Also when he tries to raise his voice he kind of loses the grunt, first time it happened I didn't realise it was still him speaking at first. Oh, and the characters look like they've got ****ing ants in their pants when you're talking to them, Braggart (edit: I mean Taggart, haha) was especially bad for this. Super distracting at times.

Anyway, minor complaints in the scheme of things, and it's not like the first game didn't have it's fair share of ham. Really enjoying it.

 

[DEATHMASTER]

Spoiler

Saving Malik was a bitch. In fact, it was easier knocking out the guards than killing them. This is incorporating the fact that I had a single smg which took too long to kill shit (aside from the fragged robo). It was simple enough cloak & sprint up to the first 3 guys and knocking them out then tranquilizing the rest while they shot at the chopper. It took me long enough to even try the non-lethal approach for this scenario. Good thing I upgraded the cloak and had just enough energy cells (4) AND upgraded sprint speed/duration to do it fast enough. Literally, all that stuff came into play for this one scenario.

 

[StarBob]

Ok so I have two questions for anyone who's beaten the third boss fight. Also I'm continuing my narrative of gameplay:

Spoiler

So when the Queen Bitch (I don't recall her actual name) pointed the remote at Jensen and tried to turn him off nothing happened and she ran away. I assume this is because I never went to a LIMB clinic to get my bio-chip replaced due to the "glitch". What happens in that scene if you actually did get the new chip installed?

Also, after you beat the boss and meet Megan Malik showed up for me and airlifted all four scientists to safety. What happens to the scientists if you didn't save Malik?


Ok for the Singapore level I went no-kill mode again. Turned off the signal jammer without being spotted (shot out the camera with the silenced pistol then waited for them to exit alert mode and snuck in). Didn't even knock anyone out. Knocked out plenty of people while finding the three scientists though.

For the Irish one I noticed seats all surrounding his surgery and what was clearly the Queen Bitch's throne. I was thinking of putting a frag mine on it for the laugh but then I decided to save it. They were very useful for the previous boss and I might want them again.

The "high security" area was a bit stupid (high-security seems to mean one camera, one bot and two normal footsoldiers and of course I just hacked the bot to kill the two soldiers) and the distraction seemed entirely unnecessary. That area seemed a but unfinished (especially when they just reused the same idea from the docks for the distraction).

The scene where the Queen Bitch failed to turn me off was funny but I must say the third boss fight was by far the easiest of the three for me. All I did was cloak (I upgraded my cloak to full mid-mission), run to a corner, toss a frag mine around back where I came from, wait for him to trip up on it and then laser him in the face. Laser-headshotting him stunned him further leaving me able to do it for a long time doing shitloads of damage. Also every time he threw a gas grenade (where does he pull them from?) I could safely ignore it because I have the upgrade that makes me immune to gas (funnily enough, he doesn't). I decided not to bother taking his plasma rifle after the fight. I'd have to drop my trusty laser gun and it had just served me very well and I still had a full clip and bit left.

Then onto Megan Reed. Ok I just want to get out of the way that her room is just creepy. Why is everything white? Why does she have a crash test dummy? I thought my graphics card might have broken for a second because all of my colour was gone. She must be ****ing crazy. Why the hell did I ever marry her? So from looking at the emails around the level (other than the ones relating to animal porn) I had figured that the chips had something to do with mental manipulation. But for some reason I had the impression that it would be something like emotional control. Control people by say making them all ecstatic during a political rally from one guy and hate for the other guy and shit like that. What Darrow did was really a surprise and it certainly explains why there are so few mechanically augmented people around by the time of Deus Ex (the only ones I can remember are Anna, Gunther and the bartender in Hell's Kitchen (also Jojo but a character says all his augmentations are cosmetic). Also interesting how Adam's DNA seems to be the key to creating nano-augmentation. I knew it had to come up somewhere in the game.

Something I forgot to mention last time was are they going to explain how everyone gets Adam's frequency? It seems to have turned into a running gag. "You're a super soldier type you figure it out." "Ancient Chinese secret". Onwards to the Arctic!

I asked some of those same questions buried in this sea of spoiler text.

Spoiler

Saving Malik was a bitch. In fact, it was easier knocking out the guards than killing them. This is incorporating the fact that I had a single smg which took too long to kill shit (aside from the fragged robo). It was simple enough cloak & sprint up to the first 3 guys and knocking them out then tranquilizing the rest while they shot at the chopper. It took me long enough to even try the non-lethal approach for this scenario. Good thing I upgraded the cloak and had just enough energy cells (4) AND upgraded sprint speed/duration to do it fast enough. Literally, all that stuff came into play for this one scenario.

Spoiler

After several failures trying to kill them all from the perch you start on, I realized taking out the ground guys lessens the damage a lot and gives you more time because they tend to shoot at you instead of the flying machine. I'm pretty sure the win/loss scenario is based on how much damage is done to it. Then I just picked off the guys around the outside.

 

[Lobster]

Spoiler

I failed to save Malik on my first play through, really regretted it when I discovered she could be saved. All the more painful when I had to go into the Harvester area to meet Tong, only to discover Malik's corpse on one of the chop-shop tables.

 

[ríomhaire]

Spoiler

This happens. She shuts off your augs and you essentially have to fight him without any. I knew something like this would happen, it was trope 101, but I got the chip anyway. Why?
In the end this fight was a lot more fun because it felt like I was trying to survive instead of just wiping the floor with him. I was absolutely terrified the whole fight and while I got kind of mad when I was doing decently the fact I had no radar, no cloak, practically no sight, made the whole thing so much more ambient and interesting and made the fight pretty much awesome and far more difficult.

It made me realize just how much I'd come to rely on those augs.

Spoiler

Shit that looks really interesting. I must do that for my second playthrough. That said my strategy for him didn't rely on augs very much (except maybe for some damage soaking) but I did find the fight pretty easy.

Spoiler

After several failures trying to kill them all from the perch you start on, I realized taking out the ground guys lessens the damage a lot and gives you more time because they tend to shoot at you instead of the flying machine. I'm pretty sure the win/loss scenario is based on how much damage is done to it. Then I just picked off the guys around the outside.

Spoiler

I jumped down and ran to the right, took cover behind some concrete blocks, headshot the two guys with assault rifles, then the same for the two heavies (on some attemtps I used a double takedown on them which was very satisfying but for the run where I actually succeeded I just shot them) then used an EMP for the bot before he was able to get a shot off. With the heavies and bot down the main sources of damage were gone so I was able to take some time taking down the remaining troops and snipers.

So who's going to be the first person to do a pacifist, smooth operator, ghost, no augs run?

 

[Polaris]

PC game Deus Ex Human Revolution not PC enough?
OMG that's racist!

http://techland.time.com/2011/08/31/the-worst-thing-about-deus-ex-human-revolution/#ixzz1WjHzCk8u

 

[Unfocused]

I LOLed.

(http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/09/02 in case it doesn't work; cba to rehost)

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

Penny Arcade INSISTS on itself.

 

[ríomhaire]

Finished the game. According to Steam it took me 34 hours. Recap of final level:

Spoiler

So obviously I didn't want to kill anyone here. It's not their fault they're insane. I mostly just used fully upgraded cloak to sneak around them. The gas immunity did come in handy though as the few times I got caught I could just toss a gas grenade at my feet and leave them all fall over.

For the last boss I did it stealthily. I fully upgraded my batteries and for the only time in the entire game I used nutrition bars to fully recharge all of them (I had more than fifteen bars stacked up in my inventory), then cloaked while hacking the computers to open the pods. Tranquillized the three women connected to the computer to shut it down, then destroyed the glass protecting the Queen Bitch with my assault rifle. Used the remain traqs on her then tossed in a couple of gas grenades to finish her off.

I chose the ending to just destroy the place. I didn't want to spread out a huge lie to the world but I didn't want to spread Darrow's message either (why wasn't there just an option to not send any broadcast without killing everyone?).

My end game upgrades:

I'll post a full review later.

 

[Barnz]

holy shit, I just beat the game. it was awesome. I wasn't expecting this to be this good. yes, there's some serious gameplay flaws (boss fights), but still, I like this very much. it took me about 90-100 hours to beat it. I checked every corner. I'll post a review too.

 

[Gargantou]

Thanks for making me feel better about myself, Barnz.

 

[MJ12]

I like this very much.

But I don't remember any System Shock 2 references?

 

[Barnz]

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[Shakermaker]

The DLC has been announced for October.

The Deus Ex: Human Revolution conspiracy grows deeper in The Missing Link. During Adam's quest for the truth in Deus Ex: Human Revolution, he mysteriously vanishes for three days. Where was he? What did he find out? The Missing Link reveals it all.

After being tortured by Belltower agents and having his augmentations disabled, Adam Jensen must rely solely on his basic capabilities to escape from a freighter, destined for an unknown location. While fighting for his survival on the ship, he uncovers another layer to the conspiracy that he never would have suspected. As Adam, befriend new, mysterious allies and fight ruthless enemies to discover what was happening in the shadows during the events of Deus Ex: Human Revolution!

• New layers of conspiracy unveiled
• Sprawling new environments
• Brand-new characters to interact with
• Rebuild Adam's augmentation set from scratch. Build up a brand new Adam!

 

[Unfocused]

My end game upgrades:

Unless I missed someone's post, it seems you hold the thread record. Out of curiosity I loaded my last save and checked my score and I had 154385 XP, which I thought was the highest out of those posted here, but not anymore (didn't provide a screenshot since I'm playing on a console).

Anyway, regarding your first 2 sentences in the spoilered part - those were exactly my thoughts. I'm not sure if they'd go back to normal after all is done, though?

The DLC has been announced for October.

Freighter, that sounds boring :| A city hub is what we need (I know it's much more work, but they've got some environments half-done, right?).

Also, I predict people will build roughly the same Adam (that makes it sound like we're customizing a doll) they used for the main game - it's not like there's a whole lot of different combinations and players generally get the idea of what works and what doesn't for them. Unless they bring in new augs.

 

[Gargantou]

Unless I missed someone's post, it seems you hold the thread record. Out of curiosity I loaded my last save and checked my score and I had 154385 XP, which I thought was the highest out of those posted here, but not anymore (didn't provide a screenshot since I'm playing on a console).

Sorry to disappoint you both.

 

[Unfocused]

OK Gargantou, we already know you have some sort of compulsive disorder, with the whole weapon selling thing, so we couldn't have expected anything less from you

Seriously though, that's impressive and since I think I was pretty thorough in checking computers etc., I'm wondering where you earned 40k more points than I did> Did you hack everything, even when you knew the code? Still, I don't think that would give 40k xp.

 

[Gargantou]

OK Gargantou, we already know you have some sort of compulsive disorder, with the whole weapon selling thing, so we couldn't have expected anything less from you

Seriously though, that's impressive and since I think I was pretty thorough in checking computers etc., I'm wondering where you earned 40k more points than I did> Did you hack everything, even when you knew the code? Still, I don't think that would give 40k xp.

I hacked everything even when I knew the code, I also hacked a lot of alarm panels though towards the end of the game I got kinda bored with it and started skipping those.

I also knocked out a lot of people with non-lethal takedowns which seemed to give nice XP bonuses.

 

[Krynn72]

Unless I missed someone's post, it seems you hold the thread record. Out of curiosity I loaded my last save and checked my score and I had 154385 XP, which I thought was the highest out of those posted here, but not anymore (didn't provide a screenshot since I'm playing on a console).

ZT had more as well. I thought I posted my final one, but I guess I forgot.

Of course, that doesn't matter since Garg is a ****ing nutcase.

 

[Ennui]

I'm taking my time through this game and LOVING IT. Haven't played a singleplayer game this good in forever. Just beat the first boss and went to China...

 

[Acepilotf14]

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v1X5F0d58I

 

[MJ12]

Spoiler

Despite liking the concept of the last level, I thought it's execution was very underwhelming. At first I liked the emptiness, and the idea that anyone with a biochip basically had a meltdown was cool. But, I would have liked to see them act a lot less like splicers; I was reminded way too much of Bioshock "stop hiding from me, it only makes it harder!" etc. I would have liked to see people struggling to keep sane, or begging for mercy as they try to kill you. It would have made the player care about them a little more if the people were conscious of their insanity and aggressive impulses, but didn't really want to harm or be harmed.

 

[Barnz]

Spoiler

the game turns into l4d in the last level, haha.

 

[ríomhaire]

Some people had a question about the last level:

Spoiler

The giant human-computer thing is to keep Panchea from falling into the ocean. If you use the social enhancement aug on Darrow's associate in China during her sidequest you can convince her to give you a few details. Basically because it's so huge and extends to the ocean floor the stresses its getting from the waters and temperature are constantly changing and the facility needs to constantly readjust or it'd buckle and collapse. The super-computer is there to stop that from happening.

 

[TwwIX]

Overall, a very good game. The boss fights and the preachy endings were a bit of a disappointment though.

 

[Krynn72]

My only gripe is that the game doesnt offer many plot choices. The choices that affect the narrative are all fairly superficial, and that kind of kills the replayability for me.

 

[Acepilotf14]

My only gripe is that the game doesnt offer many plot choices. The choices that affect the narrative are all fairly superficial, and that kind of kills the replayability for me.

This was also my issue. I was expecting Alpha Protocol like choices, with a lot of ambiguity, but instead they leaned on 'cool' cut scenes and a stupid choicey ending. Sad, really.

 

[Barnz]

hated ingame cgi cutscenes. yes, we get it square enix. you're good at cgi. also why is everybody doing a robot dance when talking?

 

[MJ12]

I dunno, I thought the CGI cut scenes were not very good. I was upset that they didn't have any of the quality stuff we saw in the trailers like the icarus dream and such. I guess it was too stylistically different.

 

[Bad^Hat]

The "CGI" looks worse than the in-game graphics, if I'm being honest. So dark and grainy, and it doesn't seem like they even changed out the models or anything, just slapped on a few more shaders.

 

[StarBob]

I dunno it didn't seem bad to me? I mean there were some times when I was like... "this seems a little rushed" but I never thought it looked worse than the normal game for a second

 

[Acepilotf14]

It looked like a compressed mp3 file.